Comments on: Hype About Hybrids http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/ Tips, Hints, Reviews and Safety for Bike Commuters Sat, 25 May 2013 07:21:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: bike hybrids http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-81341 bike hybrids Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:52:44 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-81341 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Travis http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1369 Travis Thu, 04 May 2006 01:55:40 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1369 But the APC has 120 VAC.. if i remember correctly. so i could use my hair dryer and bread maker, coffee maker, and easy bake oven. If we are all worried about gas milage just get a old GEO, or a Yugo. Travis But the APC has 120 VAC.. if i remember correctly. so i could use my hair dryer and bread maker, coffee maker, and easy bake oven. If we are all worried about gas milage just get a old GEO, or a Yugo.

Travis

]]> By: Nick http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1282 Nick Tue, 02 May 2006 04:27:50 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1282 I'd also like to mention that I probably spent a total of 30 minutes staring at that animated combustion engine graphic. Seriously, it's hypnotic. I’d also like to mention that I probably spent a total of 30 minutes staring at that animated combustion engine graphic. Seriously, it’s hypnotic.

]]> By: Randy http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Randy Tue, 02 May 2006 04:00:26 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1277 An APC, That's a good one Nick. An APC or Armored Personnel Carrier for you civilians out there would definately crush any SUV out on the road. But one draw back... no DVD players. Gotta pimp my ride. An APC, That’s a good one Nick. An APC or Armored Personnel Carrier for you civilians out there would definately crush any SUV out on the road. But one draw back… no DVD players. Gotta pimp my ride.

]]> By: RL Policar http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1274 RL Policar Tue, 02 May 2006 03:35:53 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1274 C'mon girls...stop the hair pulling...hehe C’mon girls…stop the hair pulling…hehe

]]> By: Nick http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Nick Tue, 02 May 2006 03:27:48 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1273 Well, that's one way to selectively interpret the data. It's worth noting that there are large and small cars on both ends of the spectrum; the list is intended to show that car safety has more to do with construction of the car than with its size, not that large or small cars are safer across the board. The Mini Cooper (well built) and the F150 (poorly built) are extreme examples intended to dispel the myth that size alone equals safety. My personal preference in a car is smaller and lighter, and therefore more maneuverable and responsive. To quote the aforementioned article's closing paragraph: <i>In a head-on crash, an Explorer or a Suburban would crush a Jetta or a Camry. But, clearly, the drivers of Camrys and Jettas are finding a way to avoid head-on crashes with Explorers and Suburbans. The benefits of being nimble--of being in an automobile that's capable of staying out of trouble--are in many cases greater than the benefits of being big.</i> Well, that’s one way to selectively interpret the data. It’s worth noting that there are large and small cars on both ends of the spectrum; the list is intended to show that car safety has more to do with construction of the car than with its size, not that large or small cars are safer across the board. The Mini Cooper (well built) and the F150 (poorly built) are extreme examples intended to dispel the myth that size alone equals safety.

My personal preference in a car is smaller and lighter, and therefore more maneuverable and responsive. To quote the aforementioned article’s closing paragraph:

In a head-on crash, an Explorer or a Suburban would crush a Jetta or a Camry. But, clearly, the drivers of Camrys and Jettas are finding a way to avoid head-on crashes with Explorers and Suburbans. The benefits of being nimble–of being in an automobile that’s capable of staying out of trouble–are in many cases greater than the benefits of being big.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1272 Anonymous Tue, 02 May 2006 02:35:26 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1272 Sure Nick, Hit a telephone pole or a wall an SUV might cause more damage. But when have you ever seen a telephone pole jump in the middle of the road? Unless you lose complete control or drunk, you have got to be an idiot to hit a pole or a wall while driving! Make/Model Type Driver Other Total Deaths Deaths Subaru Legacy/Outback Compact 74 24 98 Mazda 626 Compact 70 29 99 Chevrolet Suburban S.U.V. 46 59 105 Jeep Grand Cherokee S.U.V. 61 44 106 "The numbers are expressed in fatalities per million cars, both for drivers of particular models and for the drivers of the cars they hit." Notice that the statistics that "YOU" suggested I read pointed out that the number of driver deaths in a compact car is higher than an SUV. Sure Nick, Hit a telephone pole or a wall an SUV might cause more damage. But when have you ever seen a telephone pole jump in the middle of the road? Unless you lose complete control or drunk, you have got to be an idiot to hit a pole or a wall while driving!

Make/Model Type Driver Other Total
Deaths Deaths

Subaru Legacy/Outback Compact 74 24 98
Mazda 626 Compact 70 29 99
Chevrolet Suburban S.U.V. 46 59 105
Jeep Grand Cherokee S.U.V. 61 44 106

“The numbers are expressed in fatalities per million cars, both for drivers of particular models and for the drivers of the cars they hit.”
Notice that the statistics that “YOU” suggested I read pointed out that the number of driver deaths in a compact car is higher than an SUV.

]]> By: Nick http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1266 Nick Mon, 01 May 2006 17:34:19 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1266 Anonymous: I suggest you read <a href="http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/CrashTestingMINICooperVsFordF150" rel="nofollow">this</a>. There is a difference between <i>feeling</i> safe and <i>being safe,</i> and while an SUV or truck may win in a head-on collision with a small car, what do you think all that weight is doing if you hit a telephone pole or wall? It's going to crush you and your children from behind. Anyway, you're at the wrong forum to argue the safety of SUVs - you're talking to a group of people who <b>ride bicycles</b> to work. Clearly, we must be insane and suicidal, since we would be so much safer in an H2, or, hell, why not an M113 APC? That'll really keep those kids safe. Back me up on this one, Randy! Anonymous: I suggest you read this. There is a difference between feeling safe and being safe, and while an SUV or truck may win in a head-on collision with a small car, what do you think all that weight is doing if you hit a telephone pole or wall? It’s going to crush you and your children from behind.

Anyway, you’re at the wrong forum to argue the safety of SUVs – you’re talking to a group of people who ride bicycles to work. Clearly, we must be insane and suicidal, since we would be so much safer in an H2, or, hell, why not an M113 APC? That’ll really keep those kids safe. Back me up on this one, Randy!

]]> By: Moe http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1265 Moe Mon, 01 May 2006 17:18:31 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1265 My wife went from a Ford Expedition to a PT Cruiser. She believed that my kids were safer on the SUV due to it's size. The PT Cruiser comes with Front and Side airbags and a rating of 'Excellent' on Rear Side impacts (where my girls would be). It took time for my wife to get used to being 'small', but now she loves her PT Cruiser. We now have a lower car payment and double the MPG. My wife went from a Ford Expedition to a PT Cruiser. She believed that my kids were safer on the SUV due to it’s size. The PT Cruiser comes with Front and Side airbags and a rating of ‘Excellent’ on Rear Side impacts (where my girls would be). It took time for my wife to get used to being ‘small’, but now she loves her PT Cruiser. We now have a lower car payment and double the MPG.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.commutebybike.com/2006/05/01/hype-about-hybrids/comment-page-1/#comment-1263 Anonymous Mon, 01 May 2006 16:33:05 +0000 http://commutebybike.com/?p=684#comment-1263 Keeping your kids safe is always a must. I could see why parents would prefer to keep their kids in an SUV rather than a compact car. There are both advantage and disadvantage on having that SUV. You definitely have more room to carry things in an SUV. But the turn around is the killer gas mileage. As for safety sake, in the event of an accident, would you rather be in a tank or a box car? Self explanatory. Having a "Hybrid" doesn't really save you any cash. Sure it uses less gas but the price of the vehicle is a lot higher. Your monthly car payment would outweigh the money supposedly saved on gas. Keeping your kids safe is always a must. I could see why parents would prefer to keep their kids in an SUV rather than a compact car. There are both advantage and disadvantage on having that SUV. You definitely have more room to carry things in an SUV. But the turn around is the killer gas mileage. As for safety sake, in the event of an accident, would you rather be in a tank or a box car? Self explanatory. Having a “Hybrid” doesn’t really save you any cash. Sure it uses less gas but the price of the vehicle is a lot higher. Your monthly car payment would outweigh the money supposedly saved on gas.

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