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		<title>By: Mike Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission announced today that Hyland Bicycles is recalling about 800 carbon bicycle forks imported by Civia Cycles, of Bloomington, Minn. At least one person has been injured by the fork breaking, resulting in an abrasion on the face and bruised ribs.

The bicycle forks were sold by specialty bicycle retailers nationwide from April 2008 through February 2010 for between $1,675 and $3,500 for Civia Hyland complete bicycles and for about $195 for Civia Carbon forks. According to the CPSC, consumers should immediately stop riding these bicycles with the recalled forks and contact an authorized Civia Cycles dealer for a free replacement fork. For more information, consumers may contact Civia Cycles toll-free at (877) 774-6208 between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. ET Monday through Friday or visit the firm&#039;s Web site at www.civiacycles.com.

If you have been injured in a bicycle accident caused by a defective bicycle part, contact the California bicycle accident lawyers at Estey Bomberger for a free consultation of your legal rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission announced today that Hyland Bicycles is recalling about 800 carbon bicycle forks imported by Civia Cycles, of Bloomington, Minn. At least one person has been injured by the fork breaking, resulting in an abrasion on the face and bruised ribs.</p>
<p>The bicycle forks were sold by specialty bicycle retailers nationwide from April 2008 through February 2010 for between $1,675 and $3,500 for Civia Hyland complete bicycles and for about $195 for Civia Carbon forks. According to the CPSC, consumers should immediately stop riding these bicycles with the recalled forks and contact an authorized Civia Cycles dealer for a free replacement fork. For more information, consumers may contact Civia Cycles toll-free at (877) 774-6208 between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. ET Monday through Friday or visit the firm&#8217;s Web site at <a href="http://www.civiacycles.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.civiacycles.com</a>.</p>
<p>If you have been injured in a bicycle accident caused by a defective bicycle part, contact the California bicycle accident lawyers at Estey Bomberger for a free consultation of your legal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;m on the &quot;anti-carbon&quot; team.  Not a fan of the stuff.  I&#039;d prefer to see a nicely made steel fork with radiused blades.  Carbon and commuting don&#039;t mix, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m on the &#8220;anti-carbon&#8221; team.  Not a fan of the stuff.  I&#8217;d prefer to see a nicely made steel fork with radiused blades.  Carbon and commuting don&#8217;t mix, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice looking bike, and love the Rohloff option (the main reason for the price).  Tbe 
Alfine 8 version is obtainable in the $1500 range these days.
Here&#039;s hoping the new Bryant (steel frame, belt driven option) will get a Rohloff option.

Yuppie bike?  hardly.  Looks like a good, practical car replacement to me, at less than the cost of one year&#039;s insurance, taxes and gas (in most places).  A good internal drive is worth the money for anyone in a wet or snowy climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice looking bike, and love the Rohloff option (the main reason for the price).  Tbe<br />
Alfine 8 version is obtainable in the $1500 range these days.<br />
Here&#8217;s hoping the new Bryant (steel frame, belt driven option) will get a Rohloff option.</p>
<p>Yuppie bike?  hardly.  Looks like a good, practical car replacement to me, at less than the cost of one year&#8217;s insurance, taxes and gas (in most places).  A good internal drive is worth the money for anyone in a wet or snowy climate.</p>
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		<title>By: KDub</title>
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		<dc:creator>KDub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Mike&#039;s input on carbon forks...
A properly engineered modern carbon fork:
1. CAN have similar initial strength under static load, but under dynamic load, carbon&#039;s modulus (ability to flex under load and return to it&#039;s original shape known as &quot;toughness&quot;) is (potentially) much greater than steel. If you catastrophically fail a good carbon fork, it probably failed long after the wheel and yo&#039; bones.
2. the modulus of elasticity CAN result in more complaint and precise handling.
3. Carbon CAN have a much longer fatigue life than steel.
4. Carbon CAN weigh considerably less than steel.
Sorry aluminum, you&#039;ve come a long way, but due to an unsuitable modulus, you can&#039;t compete for most discerning cyclists.
Don&#039;t get me wrong, I ride both and love steel, but from an engineering standpoint, if light weight, high strength, precision handling and a supple ride are important, carbon is a superior material for bicycle construction. If price and impact resistance are a factor, steel has the advantage.
Due to it&#039;s high modulus of elasticity,  carbon has a damp feel... dull in comparison to the sweet, lively and resilient feel of steel.
Carbon is only recently well understood for bicycle applications. Many carbon products are semi experimental and a lot of carbon products are a joke. Steel is sorted out.  
As far as a commuter... well ok, I ride steel and will for a long time to come. I once bent a steel fork back to where the wheel would not clear the downtube. I bent it back and rode 40 miles home... try that on carbon huh?
I had a friend who locked his $4K Carbon Dura Ace bike up. He looked out of the store to see a thief yank his bike&#039;s top tube against the lock cable and the top tube just popped apart in one shot. The thief made off with all of his broken bike. Try that with steel.
KDub  ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Mike&#8217;s input on carbon forks&#8230;<br />
A properly engineered modern carbon fork:<br />
1. CAN have similar initial strength under static load, but under dynamic load, carbon&#8217;s modulus (ability to flex under load and return to it&#8217;s original shape known as &#8220;toughness&#8221;) is (potentially) much greater than steel. If you catastrophically fail a good carbon fork, it probably failed long after the wheel and yo&#8217; bones.<br />
2. the modulus of elasticity CAN result in more complaint and precise handling.<br />
3. Carbon CAN have a much longer fatigue life than steel.<br />
4. Carbon CAN weigh considerably less than steel.<br />
Sorry aluminum, you&#8217;ve come a long way, but due to an unsuitable modulus, you can&#8217;t compete for most discerning cyclists.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I ride both and love steel, but from an engineering standpoint, if light weight, high strength, precision handling and a supple ride are important, carbon is a superior material for bicycle construction. If price and impact resistance are a factor, steel has the advantage.<br />
Due to it&#8217;s high modulus of elasticity,  carbon has a damp feel&#8230; dull in comparison to the sweet, lively and resilient feel of steel.<br />
Carbon is only recently well understood for bicycle applications. Many carbon products are semi experimental and a lot of carbon products are a joke. Steel is sorted out.<br />
As far as a commuter&#8230; well ok, I ride steel and will for a long time to come. I once bent a steel fork back to where the wheel would not clear the downtube. I bent it back and rode 40 miles home&#8230; try that on carbon huh?<br />
I had a friend who locked his $4K Carbon Dura Ace bike up. He looked out of the store to see a thief yank his bike&#8217;s top tube against the lock cable and the top tube just popped apart in one shot. The thief made off with all of his broken bike. Try that with steel.<br />
KDub  ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMMmmmm...

I just don&#039;t see $3,100 worth of bicycle there.  

Carbon fork for a commuter is a bad idea.  Carbon still has catastrophic failure when it does fail. 

The front fork is just too important to go weight weenie.  

That said, I think the bike is overpriced and getting a lot more hype than it deserves. 


Commuters bicycles take far too much abuse and spend too much time with a rider in the saddle to</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMMmmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see $3,100 worth of bicycle there.  </p>
<p>Carbon fork for a commuter is a bad idea.  Carbon still has catastrophic failure when it does fail. </p>
<p>The front fork is just too important to go weight weenie.  </p>
<p>That said, I think the bike is overpriced and getting a lot more hype than it deserves. </p>
<p>Commuters bicycles take far too much abuse and spend too much time with a rider in the saddle to</p>
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		<title>By: janeashley</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/09/27/betting-high-with-civia-cycles/comment-page-1/#comment-99392</link>
		<dc:creator>janeashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspite of having 4cars at home i prefer to ride my bicycle.Such is my passion for cycles.One of the best qualities is provide by Civia bicycles.A Civia&#039;s ride quality speaks for itself and is undeniably their best sales person.They guide their business by three principles:  Passion, Respect and Sustainability.They&#039;re passionate about bicycles and the lifestyle they provide.They respect their community and the environment and seek sustainability from their relationships and business.
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janeashley
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspite of having 4cars at home i prefer to ride my bicycle.Such is my passion for cycles.One of the best qualities is provide by Civia bicycles.A Civia&#8217;s ride quality speaks for itself and is undeniably their best sales person.They guide their business by three principles:  Passion, Respect and Sustainability.They&#8217;re passionate about bicycles and the lifestyle they provide.They respect their community and the environment and seek sustainability from their relationships and business.<br />
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janeashley<br />
<a href="http://www.bettingchoice.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Sport betting guide</a></p>
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		<title>By: Toshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My (very late) 2 cents is that the average commuter would be much, much better off with a Novara from REI. The Transfer (26&quot; wheels, Nexus 7, full fenders/rack/lights/gen hub, $600!) and the Fusion (700c, one step up, Nexus 8, $750) are two great options.

Is the Novara Transfer laden with high end parts? No. Is it as sexy as this Hyland? No. But does it offer all the commuter needs/wants (internal gearing, lighting, fenders, rack, good riding position). Yes.

http://www.rei.com/product/744802</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My (very late) 2 cents is that the average commuter would be much, much better off with a Novara from REI. The Transfer (26&#8243; wheels, Nexus 7, full fenders/rack/lights/gen hub, $600!) and the Fusion (700c, one step up, Nexus 8, $750) are two great options.</p>
<p>Is the Novara Transfer laden with high end parts? No. Is it as sexy as this Hyland? No. But does it offer all the commuter needs/wants (internal gearing, lighting, fenders, rack, good riding position). Yes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rei.com/product/744802" rel="nofollow">http://www.rei.com/product/744802</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old  thread, but here&#039;s my 2 cent&#039;s worth: I  just commissioned my new commuter: Ti frame,  disc brakes,  Rohlof  hub, Chris King and Phil Woods build up, $5000. Why go so big? I ride every day in all kinds of weather and this bike will  be  the most dependable, longest lasting, lowest maintenance bike I could create. I&#039;ve broken steel frames, my current commuter is a one speed at the moment - frozen derailleur, I scared the poop out of  myself last weak due to poor braking performance - rim brakes get glazed in a week in snow and salt conditions. The new bike will address all of  these problems, and most of the parts are guaranteed for ten  years or more so I  don&#039;t have to buy a new bike every two years. Anyone who thinks hanging derailleurs and rim brakes are good options for four season cycling must live in a great climate - that junk does not hold up to snowy conditions. 

In summary, I think these bikes look like a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old  thread, but here&#8217;s my 2 cent&#8217;s worth: I  just commissioned my new commuter: Ti frame,  disc brakes,  Rohlof  hub, Chris King and Phil Woods build up, $5000. Why go so big? I ride every day in all kinds of weather and this bike will  be  the most dependable, longest lasting, lowest maintenance bike I could create. I&#8217;ve broken steel frames, my current commuter is a one speed at the moment &#8211; frozen derailleur, I scared the poop out of  myself last weak due to poor braking performance &#8211; rim brakes get glazed in a week in snow and salt conditions. The new bike will address all of  these problems, and most of the parts are guaranteed for ten  years or more so I  don&#8217;t have to buy a new bike every two years. Anyone who thinks hanging derailleurs and rim brakes are good options for four season cycling must live in a great climate &#8211; that junk does not hold up to snowy conditions. </p>
<p>In summary, I think these bikes look like a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Efried</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great design - that high priced bike needs stop&#039;n go support. With electric assist - demobilising via breaking the wheel is possible if the user does not authenticate- or sirens may go off if the wheel moves... .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great design &#8211; that high priced bike needs stop&#8217;n go support. With electric assist &#8211; demobilising via breaking the wheel is possible if the user does not authenticate- or sirens may go off if the wheel moves&#8230; .</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Kind Bikes Commuter:

http://kindbike.com/index.php/bikes/commuter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Kind Bikes Commuter:</p>
<p><a href="http://kindbike.com/index.php/bikes/commuter/" rel="nofollow">http://kindbike.com/index.php/bikes/commuter/</a></p>
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