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		<title>By: Lager owner</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-488183</link>
		<dc:creator>Lager owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bikes are cheap, but they really suck.  You get what you pay for.

I have had issues with my bottom bracket since purchasing one.  It&#039;s cheaply made and I have already ended up spending more on components than the original price of the bike.  My advice is to stay away.  Get something that is nicer like a Linus, or a Republic Bike.  SE street bikes are definitely something you will regret purchasing.

Oh and the customer service from SE is non existent.  They just send you to the bike shop, which is never helpful.  SE customer service couldn&#039;t even tell me what components work on their bikes.  They have no quality control at their Chinese factory, they have no interest in helping people.  I don&#039;t know why they even have customer service?  It&#039;s truly a waste of money as they will only waste your time.

You were warned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bikes are cheap, but they really suck.  You get what you pay for.</p>
<p>I have had issues with my bottom bracket since purchasing one.  It&#8217;s cheaply made and I have already ended up spending more on components than the original price of the bike.  My advice is to stay away.  Get something that is nicer like a Linus, or a Republic Bike.  SE street bikes are definitely something you will regret purchasing.</p>
<p>Oh and the customer service from SE is non existent.  They just send you to the bike shop, which is never helpful.  SE customer service couldn&#8217;t even tell me what components work on their bikes.  They have no quality control at their Chinese factory, they have no interest in helping people.  I don&#8217;t know why they even have customer service?  It&#8217;s truly a waste of money as they will only waste your time.</p>
<p>You were warned.</p>
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		<title>By: Draft Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-163606</link>
		<dc:creator>Draft Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an 09 draft last summer. I changed out the wheels and tires and put new bars and seat on it. I think it&#039;s a great bike for the price and the changes I made would have been made on whatever bike I bought.
I don&#039;t think having a 27 pound bike which is now about 23 pounds is all that much different than having a 21 pounder, besides with the beating that I&#039;ve given it I would have felt bad with a $500 or $600 bike.
But if you have to have Chromo or Aluminum then this is not your ride!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an 09 draft last summer. I changed out the wheels and tires and put new bars and seat on it. I think it&#8217;s a great bike for the price and the changes I made would have been made on whatever bike I bought.<br />
I don&#8217;t think having a 27 pound bike which is now about 23 pounds is all that much different than having a 21 pounder, besides with the beating that I&#8217;ve given it I would have felt bad with a $500 or $600 bike.<br />
But if you have to have Chromo or Aluminum then this is not your ride!</p>
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		<title>By: blackedout</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackedout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and if youre riding it fixed...get a stronger chain than the stock..it snapped on me bombing a hill and i dont have a front break</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and if youre riding it fixed&#8230;get a stronger chain than the stock..it snapped on me bombing a hill and i dont have a front break</p>
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		<title>By: blackedout</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-145582</link>
		<dc:creator>blackedout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been riding the 09 se lager for about 9 months. I ride it about 10-15 miles a day to school/work/bars all round sf. im very happy with the frame. just need new rims and crankset...they are shitty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been riding the 09 se lager for about 9 months. I ride it about 10-15 miles a day to school/work/bars all round sf. im very happy with the frame. just need new rims and crankset&#8230;they are shitty</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-129483</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes your right BM the SE lager is a cheap bike, it does not mater how much metal you put into the frame, if its a cheap bike then its not going to perform or last. 

My advice to anyone looking to buy a new bike is to spend a little more and get a bike that is reliable and not going to let you down. 

Remember if your not on the track then your on a road up against cars trucks and busses. This bike is not somthing you can rely on to keep you in one piece and alive.

This is not a rant but a warning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes your right BM the SE lager is a cheap bike, it does not mater how much metal you put into the frame, if its a cheap bike then its not going to perform or last. </p>
<p>My advice to anyone looking to buy a new bike is to spend a little more and get a bike that is reliable and not going to let you down. </p>
<p>Remember if your not on the track then your on a road up against cars trucks and busses. This bike is not somthing you can rely on to keep you in one piece and alive.</p>
<p>This is not a rant but a warning.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-129438</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont do it!!

I brought one of these bikes it was a repacment for another bike that stolen, incidently that was also a replacment.

Anyway to the point, i was excited to get the bike as i single speed bike and was keen to try one out on a daily basis (my 3 mile commute to work). After a month of darting around the city of London on it i had finally become used to the brown bike and really felt like i understood it. 

Just around this time i was cycling home on a busy road and must have hit a little bump in the road when the front wheel just bent straight in half and threw me on the rd head first and in front of the bus comming up behind me at 40mph luckily it stoped intime not to mangel my body into the cold hard tarmac. Needless to say this was 1 month after i brought the bike. 

Furious i contected my shop and demanded that the bike be refunded 6 months later and 30 -40 emails later i am still being messed around by SE. To make matters worse my shoulder is still f** up.

My advice is to stick to the little bikes SE you got it wrong when you with this. You SUCK!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont do it!!</p>
<p>I brought one of these bikes it was a repacment for another bike that stolen, incidently that was also a replacment.</p>
<p>Anyway to the point, i was excited to get the bike as i single speed bike and was keen to try one out on a daily basis (my 3 mile commute to work). After a month of darting around the city of London on it i had finally become used to the brown bike and really felt like i understood it. </p>
<p>Just around this time i was cycling home on a busy road and must have hit a little bump in the road when the front wheel just bent straight in half and threw me on the rd head first and in front of the bus comming up behind me at 40mph luckily it stoped intime not to mangel my body into the cold hard tarmac. Needless to say this was 1 month after i brought the bike. </p>
<p>Furious i contected my shop and demanded that the bike be refunded 6 months later and 30 -40 emails later i am still being messed around by SE. To make matters worse my shoulder is still f** up.</p>
<p>My advice is to stick to the little bikes SE you got it wrong when you with this. You SUCK!!</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-129444</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first blame the shop for not truing the wheels before they sold the bike to you, Secondly did you keep the air pressure up in the tires? Thirdly how hard did you actually ride the bike?
like BM said they are not the best wheels, buying a low priced bike isn&#039;t gonna get you high end part!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first blame the shop for not truing the wheels before they sold the bike to you, Secondly did you keep the air pressure up in the tires? Thirdly how hard did you actually ride the bike?<br />
like BM said they are not the best wheels, buying a low priced bike isn&#8217;t gonna get you high end part!</p>
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		<title>By: BM</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-129442</link>
		<dc:creator>BM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you knew anything about bikes, you would understand that the wheel breaking has nothing to do with the bike itself. SE doesn&#039;t make the wheel... Cheap bike, cheap wheels. Thats why you upgrade.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew anything about bikes, you would understand that the wheel breaking has nothing to do with the bike itself. SE doesn&#8217;t make the wheel&#8230; Cheap bike, cheap wheels. Thats why you upgrade&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Boland</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2007/11/08/out-of-the-box-se-lager/comment-page-1/#comment-128040</link>
		<dc:creator>Boland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought the 2008 Lager off my friend and gave it a good paint job, new wheels and a few other mods like a cut down headset. She&#039;s quite the looker. 
[IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/34gm35d.jpg[/IMG]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought the 2008 Lager off my friend and gave it a good paint job, new wheels and a few other mods like a cut down headset. She&#8217;s quite the looker.<br />
[IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/34gm35d.jpg[/IMG]</p>
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		<title>By: Don't drink cheap beer Demps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't drink cheap beer Demps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was lucky enough to walk into a LBS and lo and behold a 58cm new 2006 tan Lager had a $400 clearance price tag on it. Sure beats the $650+ for a 2009. Don&#039;t know how this one stayed around for three years without being sold. Perfect fit, the bullhorns allow a nice stretch on long rides and lower center of gravity for hills. Carry a spare tube and pump. The thin, stock Kendas are subject to flats. Pleasant surprise--the chain on a single speed is easy to keep immaculate; this provides an almost silent ride. Who wouldn&#039;t want a beer-colored bike! The paint color seems to have been discontinued. That&#039;s a marketing mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was lucky enough to walk into a LBS and lo and behold a 58cm new 2006 tan Lager had a $400 clearance price tag on it. Sure beats the $650+ for a 2009. Don&#8217;t know how this one stayed around for three years without being sold. Perfect fit, the bullhorns allow a nice stretch on long rides and lower center of gravity for hills. Carry a spare tube and pump. The thin, stock Kendas are subject to flats. Pleasant surprise&#8211;the chain on a single speed is easy to keep immaculate; this provides an almost silent ride. Who wouldn&#8217;t want a beer-colored bike! The paint color seems to have been discontinued. That&#8217;s a marketing mistake.</p>
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