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	<title>Comments on: $1400 ticket for reckless driving on a bicycle</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69405</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s ridiculous.

Fight it, fight it, fight it - with a lawyer.

Here&#039;s a link to the Bill language:

http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2007/va-drivertax.pdf

That case could be fought and won by an amateur lawyer.  
Charges could be recovered using a good lawyer.
Pain and suffering charges could be recovered using a great lawyer.

Ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>Fight it, fight it, fight it &#8211; with a lawyer.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the Bill language:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2007/va-drivertax.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2007/va-drivertax.pdf</a></p>
<p>That case could be fought and won by an amateur lawyer.<br />
Charges could be recovered using a good lawyer.<br />
Pain and suffering charges could be recovered using a great lawyer.</p>
<p>Ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: miker</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69375</link>
		<dc:creator>miker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John-

according to http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/21/2170.asp :
&quot;A judge agreed with Officer Evans and now Cornish must either pay the fee
or hire a traffic attorney and fight his case before a circuit court in
February. State Delegate Dave Albo (R-Springfield), the architect of the
fees -- and a traffic attorney -- says he is surprised that a judge would
apply them to a bicyclist. &quot;

Mr. Cornish went to court, as you say, and all charges were upheld and enforced.  Isn&#039;t anyone else outraged by this?

I am a bike commuter in the next town over from Newport News.  I don&#039;t own a car and am very wary of getting ticketed for running traffic lights after waiting through several cycles where the demand is not tripped by my bike, or even as it seems here for biking where a police officer does not want to see me travelling without paying for car insurance or gasoline.

There are many legal issues being run against bicyclists, and for us to defend charging someone for reckelss driving for merely properly operating a bicycle is abhorent. Not only does it put a hefty fine on a responsible young man, it makes it difficult for all of us bike commuters who fear being stopped merely for bicycling in traffic.  Does anyone know any attorneys who can help Mr. Cornish fight this fine &amp; get the officer and judge some training on transportation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John-</p>
<p>according to <a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/21/2170.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/21/2170.asp</a> :<br />
&#8220;A judge agreed with Officer Evans and now Cornish must either pay the fee<br />
or hire a traffic attorney and fight his case before a circuit court in<br />
February. State Delegate Dave Albo (R-Springfield), the architect of the<br />
fees &#8212; and a traffic attorney &#8212; says he is surprised that a judge would<br />
apply them to a bicyclist. &#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Cornish went to court, as you say, and all charges were upheld and enforced.  Isn&#8217;t anyone else outraged by this?</p>
<p>I am a bike commuter in the next town over from Newport News.  I don&#8217;t own a car and am very wary of getting ticketed for running traffic lights after waiting through several cycles where the demand is not tripped by my bike, or even as it seems here for biking where a police officer does not want to see me travelling without paying for car insurance or gasoline.</p>
<p>There are many legal issues being run against bicyclists, and for us to defend charging someone for reckelss driving for merely properly operating a bicycle is abhorent. Not only does it put a hefty fine on a responsible young man, it makes it difficult for all of us bike commuters who fear being stopped merely for bicycling in traffic.  Does anyone know any attorneys who can help Mr. Cornish fight this fine &amp; get the officer and judge some training on transportation?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69362</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a ticket can be justifiably given to a bicyclist for reckless driving.  

A reckless cyclist blowing through red lights, stop signs, riding against traffic flow, etc., can easily endanger the near public.  Automobiles, pedestrians, and other cyclists panicking to evade an accident can be a very dangerous situation and a fine this large may be justified.

I assume, according to the news blurb and Kajuan&#039;s statements, this particular situation does not justify the violation given.  Take it to court and all charges will most likely be dropped.  If the circumstances are as clear as they sound,  a retaliatory charge, to compensate for your legal expense, may be pursued and the officer reprimanded for the abuse of power.
 
Otherwise, we should however, never exclude ourselves, as cyclists, from our obligation to not endanger those around us, regardless of what our specific local laws state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a ticket can be justifiably given to a bicyclist for reckless driving.  </p>
<p>A reckless cyclist blowing through red lights, stop signs, riding against traffic flow, etc., can easily endanger the near public.  Automobiles, pedestrians, and other cyclists panicking to evade an accident can be a very dangerous situation and a fine this large may be justified.</p>
<p>I assume, according to the news blurb and Kajuan&#8217;s statements, this particular situation does not justify the violation given.  Take it to court and all charges will most likely be dropped.  If the circumstances are as clear as they sound,  a retaliatory charge, to compensate for your legal expense, may be pursued and the officer reprimanded for the abuse of power.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we should however, never exclude ourselves, as cyclists, from our obligation to not endanger those around us, regardless of what our specific local laws state.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69357</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets beat a Dead Horse, HE Was Not Drunk!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets beat a Dead Horse, HE Was Not Drunk!!</p>
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		<title>By: kajuan cornish</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69346</link>
		<dc:creator>kajuan cornish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh yeah exactly first of all my bike doesnt go past 4 miles an hour cause its messed up but speeding on a bike in a 45mile per hour zone?come on they tryed to get me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh yeah exactly first of all my bike doesnt go past 4 miles an hour cause its messed up but speeding on a bike in a 45mile per hour zone?come on they tryed to get me</p>
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		<title>By: kajuan cornish</title>
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		<dc:creator>kajuan cornish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wasnt drunk guys i was on a lunch break doing a favor for my boss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wasnt drunk guys i was on a lunch break doing a favor for my boss</p>
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		<title>By: JiMCi</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiMCi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the article and watched the video. Looking at this guy, I just can&#039;t imagine him speeding on a bicycle! BTW, for a speeding offence, shouldn&#039;t the ticket state how fast he was riding??? Sounds more like an officer holding a grudge against cyclists...  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the article and watched the video. Looking at this guy, I just can&#8217;t imagine him speeding on a bicycle! BTW, for a speeding offence, shouldn&#8217;t the ticket state how fast he was riding??? Sounds more like an officer holding a grudge against cyclists&#8230;  <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: miker</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69278</link>
		<dc:creator>miker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this was not a DUI.

&amp; yes, Virginians are about to get the law repealed.

From the look of the article at http://www.dailypress.com/bikefine the bicyclist did nothing other than ride his bike in traffic.  The police officer said he was going too fast, according to the cyclist in the linked video.  Perhaps he looked suspicious as a young black male riding his bike fast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this was not a DUI.</p>
<p>&amp; yes, Virginians are about to get the law repealed.</p>
<p>From the look of the article at <a href="http://www.dailypress.com/bikefine" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailypress.com/bikefine</a> the bicyclist did nothing other than ride his bike in traffic.  The police officer said he was going too fast, according to the cyclist in the linked video.  Perhaps he looked suspicious as a young black male riding his bike fast?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Moser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking to a local (Carson City, NV) cop once, and he said that typically, the only time they&#039;ll ever pull over a bicycle is if it&#039;s in the wee hours of the morning, and they look suspicious.  They usually use the &quot;no headlight&quot; excuse for pulling them over and investigating further.

Having said that, I know one guy that ran a red light in front of a cop.  The cop said out the window to the rest of us, &quot;Your friend is going to get a ticket.&quot;  Of course the cop was stuck in traffic, and my friend had already returned to work and was inside the building.  The cop never found him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking to a local (Carson City, NV) cop once, and he said that typically, the only time they&#8217;ll ever pull over a bicycle is if it&#8217;s in the wee hours of the morning, and they look suspicious.  They usually use the &#8220;no headlight&#8221; excuse for pulling them over and investigating further.</p>
<p>Having said that, I know one guy that ran a red light in front of a cop.  The cop said out the window to the rest of us, &#8220;Your friend is going to get a ticket.&#8221;  Of course the cop was stuck in traffic, and my friend had already returned to work and was inside the building.  The cop never found him.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/01/14/1400-ticket-for-reckless-driving-on-a-bicycle/comment-page-1/#comment-69263</link>
		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

	I brought the DUI thing up as an aside and example of laws/situations, an addition to the Virginia law, that are wrong in my eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>	I brought the DUI thing up as an aside and example of laws/situations, an addition to the Virginia law, that are wrong in my eyes.</p>
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