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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/10/when-5-does-not-cut-it/comment-page-1/#comment-84002</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all 100% responsible for our own actions, unfortunately we are not always accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all 100% responsible for our own actions, unfortunately we are not always accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you own a gas guzzler you are a no 1 a-hole in my books that has no respect for me, my children and future generations or the environment for that matter.&quot;

Rick, you do realize that I, the author of this article, own a gas guzzler, right?  I have a 2003 Ford Explorer, which works very, very well when I actually need to haul a lot of stuff at once.  As little as my wife and I drive it (or my fuel-sipping compact car for that matter), you&#039;d be ignorant so say that stuff about me directly.

While I agree that seeing thousands of single-occupant SUVs on the highway making the daily migration from suburbia to downtown KC is detestable, you should try, yourself, to be a little less closed-minded.  Simply owning an SUV, sports car, or other vehicle that gets crappy gas mileage does not transform someone into a malevolent, earth-killing a-hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you own a gas guzzler you are a no 1 a-hole in my books that has no respect for me, my children and future generations or the environment for that matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rick, you do realize that I, the author of this article, own a gas guzzler, right?  I have a 2003 Ford Explorer, which works very, very well when I actually need to haul a lot of stuff at once.  As little as my wife and I drive it (or my fuel-sipping compact car for that matter), you&#8217;d be ignorant so say that stuff about me directly.</p>
<p>While I agree that seeing thousands of single-occupant SUVs on the highway making the daily migration from suburbia to downtown KC is detestable, you should try, yourself, to be a little less closed-minded.  Simply owning an SUV, sports car, or other vehicle that gets crappy gas mileage does not transform someone into a malevolent, earth-killing a-hole.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/10/when-5-does-not-cut-it/comment-page-1/#comment-83814</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies like GM (Hummer), Dodge (Ram) etc that supply the market with gas hogs should be boycotted and the people that buy into their nonsense should be slapped up the side of their head until they see the fault in their ways IMO.  Why should I have to suffer the consequences of other peoples actions?  We are in this together, too bad we live in a self centered world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies like GM (Hummer), Dodge (Ram) etc that supply the market with gas hogs should be boycotted and the people that buy into their nonsense should be slapped up the side of their head until they see the fault in their ways IMO.  Why should I have to suffer the consequences of other peoples actions?  We are in this together, too bad we live in a self centered world.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/10/when-5-does-not-cut-it/comment-page-1/#comment-83813</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No pain no gain.  Things will not change unless drastic change is forced on people.  If you own a gas guzzler you are a no 1 a-hole in my books that has no respect for me, my children and future generations or the environment for that matter.  It should not take $4-5 a gallon for people to behave like a responsible member of our modern society.  I have no sympathy at all for people that are starting to feel the pain from high fuel costs. Even if gasoline was $1.00 a gallon people should have enough sense to not own a gas guzzling vehicle.  People live their life like this is a practise run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No pain no gain.  Things will not change unless drastic change is forced on people.  If you own a gas guzzler you are a no 1 a-hole in my books that has no respect for me, my children and future generations or the environment for that matter.  It should not take $4-5 a gallon for people to behave like a responsible member of our modern society.  I have no sympathy at all for people that are starting to feel the pain from high fuel costs. Even if gasoline was $1.00 a gallon people should have enough sense to not own a gas guzzling vehicle.  People live their life like this is a practise run.</p>
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		<title>By: john t</title>
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		<dc:creator>john t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently $5 a gallon gas is still cheap for some.  Just today, I saw a Dodge Ram idling in a driveway with nobody around.  When gas gets expensive enough, people will have to stop wasting it.  I think maybe gas should be rationed.  People with gas guzzlers are why I am paying so much for gas.  They wasted my portion.  

We buy very little gas, though, now that both me and my wife are biking almost everywhere.  We are having fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently $5 a gallon gas is still cheap for some.  Just today, I saw a Dodge Ram idling in a driveway with nobody around.  When gas gets expensive enough, people will have to stop wasting it.  I think maybe gas should be rationed.  People with gas guzzlers are why I am paying so much for gas.  They wasted my portion.  </p>
<p>We buy very little gas, though, now that both me and my wife are biking almost everywhere.  We are having fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long term, think about making your home, work places, and shopping opportunities closer together.  This way, any form of travel is easier, shorter, and cheaper.  My place isn&#039;t too bad, with most things I need within 5 miles.

I have a co-worker who bought a home some 20 miles from town because she got more house for the buck, but now she spends $60 as week on gas.   Plus, in our current real estate slump, no one wants to buy that place in the sticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long term, think about making your home, work places, and shopping opportunities closer together.  This way, any form of travel is easier, shorter, and cheaper.  My place isn&#8217;t too bad, with most things I need within 5 miles.</p>
<p>I have a co-worker who bought a home some 20 miles from town because she got more house for the buck, but now she spends $60 as week on gas.   Plus, in our current real estate slump, no one wants to buy that place in the sticks.</p>
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		<title>By: cyclonecross</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyclonecross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Georg,

&quot;I&#039;m a hypermiler. I treat stop signs as yields, I carry speed through corners, and I glom onto the dead air space behind semis and RVs to pull me across town. Of course, that&#039;s all on my bicycle.&quot;

Agressive hypermiling by motorized vehicle or bicycle can be very dangerous as well as illegal.  I am entirely in favor of this:

&quot;the &quot;Idaho Stop&quot; at intersections for cyclists. In that enlightened state, riders can treat stops as yields, an allowance which recognizes it&#039;s unreasonable to ask a cyclist to give up energy when there&#039;s no reason to stop-and that cyclists are bright enough to know they are at a serious disadvantage should they fail to yield to autos.&quot;

However, until such laws are in place nation wide, cyclists who disobey traffic laws will continue to serve as an example to motorists and authorities who continue to question or deny our rights on the road.

On a different note, I heard on the news this week that repeatedly letting the gas in your tank go below 1/8th full is hard on the fuel pump on vehicles with tank mounted pumps.  The fuel in your tank draws excess heat away from the pump and cools it.  I&#039;m not sure about the evaporation worry, but it might also have to do with the vapor recovery systems at gas stations sucking the evaporated gas out of the tank during refueling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Georg,</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a hypermiler. I treat stop signs as yields, I carry speed through corners, and I glom onto the dead air space behind semis and RVs to pull me across town. Of course, that&#8217;s all on my bicycle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agressive hypermiling by motorized vehicle or bicycle can be very dangerous as well as illegal.  I am entirely in favor of this:</p>
<p>&#8220;the &#8220;Idaho Stop&#8221; at intersections for cyclists. In that enlightened state, riders can treat stops as yields, an allowance which recognizes it&#8217;s unreasonable to ask a cyclist to give up energy when there&#8217;s no reason to stop-and that cyclists are bright enough to know they are at a serious disadvantage should they fail to yield to autos.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, until such laws are in place nation wide, cyclists who disobey traffic laws will continue to serve as an example to motorists and authorities who continue to question or deny our rights on the road.</p>
<p>On a different note, I heard on the news this week that repeatedly letting the gas in your tank go below 1/8th full is hard on the fuel pump on vehicles with tank mounted pumps.  The fuel in your tank draws excess heat away from the pump and cools it.  I&#8217;m not sure about the evaporation worry, but it might also have to do with the vapor recovery systems at gas stations sucking the evaporated gas out of the tank during refueling.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think we shouldn&#039;t be so hasty as to cheer for high energy prices -- right now the supply chain just isn&#039;t sustainable for food and goods to your local supermarket.  Unless you have totally established a &quot;local&quot; diet, you would be totally screwed if we had a situation like is going on in Spain right now where truck drivers and fishermen are striking and they are running out of fresh meat, veggies, and fish at the supermarkets. Furthermore, if that were to happen on our country it would put additional strain on the local food sources that are so hip right now -- you may be competing with hundreds of others for those few precious tomatoes at the farmer&#039;s market.  Add to it that half the midwest (and its corn and soybean crops) is underwater right now -- well it&#039;s not a pretty picture. 

I grow veggies on my porch but it is going to be a while before they are ready and they surely won&#039;t get me through the winter.  I could sure use to lose a few pounds, but I&#039;d prefer not to go the starvation route. No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think we shouldn&#8217;t be so hasty as to cheer for high energy prices &#8212; right now the supply chain just isn&#8217;t sustainable for food and goods to your local supermarket.  Unless you have totally established a &#8220;local&#8221; diet, you would be totally screwed if we had a situation like is going on in Spain right now where truck drivers and fishermen are striking and they are running out of fresh meat, veggies, and fish at the supermarkets. Furthermore, if that were to happen on our country it would put additional strain on the local food sources that are so hip right now &#8212; you may be competing with hundreds of others for those few precious tomatoes at the farmer&#8217;s market.  Add to it that half the midwest (and its corn and soybean crops) is underwater right now &#8212; well it&#8217;s not a pretty picture. </p>
<p>I grow veggies on my porch but it is going to be a while before they are ready and they surely won&#8217;t get me through the winter.  I could sure use to lose a few pounds, but I&#8217;d prefer not to go the starvation route. No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe- I do realize that there is more to high gas prices than pain at the pump.....we feel it in everything we do from grocery shopping to a night on the town.  I was just trying to make a point that the only way this world is going to change, is if people are hit in the pocket books.  The world is competing for a finite energy source, and it&#039;s only a matter of time before it&#039;s gone.  I remember the last energy crisis when I was a kid.  Suddenly fuel efficiency was priority #1, but did we learn?  No....as soon as gas was plentiful and cheap again, out came larger and larger vehcicles.  The only way people will conserve, is if they are forced to, and the only way this planet has a chance is if we stop our selfish, wasteful ways.  That being said, you are right.....$10 a gallon is harsh, but I really don&#039;t want to see prices go back down.  It&#039;s painful for me to say that, but I think there is more at stake these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe- I do realize that there is more to high gas prices than pain at the pump&#8230;..we feel it in everything we do from grocery shopping to a night on the town.  I was just trying to make a point that the only way this world is going to change, is if people are hit in the pocket books.  The world is competing for a finite energy source, and it&#8217;s only a matter of time before it&#8217;s gone.  I remember the last energy crisis when I was a kid.  Suddenly fuel efficiency was priority #1, but did we learn?  No&#8230;.as soon as gas was plentiful and cheap again, out came larger and larger vehcicles.  The only way people will conserve, is if they are forced to, and the only way this planet has a chance is if we stop our selfish, wasteful ways.  That being said, you are right&#8230;..$10 a gallon is harsh, but I really don&#8217;t want to see prices go back down.  It&#8217;s painful for me to say that, but I think there is more at stake these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Georg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Georg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy--

I&#039;m a hypermiler. I treat stop signs as yields, I carry speed through corners, and I glom onto the dead air space behind semis and RVs to pull me across town. Of course, that&#039;s all on my bicycle. 

It&#039;s funny that drivers are now just waking up to what cyclists have known all along--momentum is energy, and energy is precious. 

I hope that all this will lead to more rational traffic policy and engineering. Roundabouts are safer and more efficient than stoplights, for instance. I would also love to see the whole country adopt the &quot;Idaho Stop&quot; at intersections for cyclists. In that enlightened state, riders can treat stops as yields, an allowance which recognizes it&#039;s unreasonable to ask a cyclist to give up energy when there&#039;s no reason to stop--and that cyclists are bright enough to know they are at a serious disadvantage should they fail to yield to autos.

On another point, and it may take a call to Car Talk to clarify this, but I don&#039;t believe a nearly empty fuel tank is subject to greater evaporation. As I understand it, automobile gas tanks are sealed to prevent all that out-gassing, which would have a detrimental, if mildly pleasant, effect on our collective brain power. Then again, gas huffing would provide a good explanation for much of the behavior of the American collective.
Happy Trails,
Ron Georg
Moab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a hypermiler. I treat stop signs as yields, I carry speed through corners, and I glom onto the dead air space behind semis and RVs to pull me across town. Of course, that&#8217;s all on my bicycle. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that drivers are now just waking up to what cyclists have known all along&#8211;momentum is energy, and energy is precious. </p>
<p>I hope that all this will lead to more rational traffic policy and engineering. Roundabouts are safer and more efficient than stoplights, for instance. I would also love to see the whole country adopt the &#8220;Idaho Stop&#8221; at intersections for cyclists. In that enlightened state, riders can treat stops as yields, an allowance which recognizes it&#8217;s unreasonable to ask a cyclist to give up energy when there&#8217;s no reason to stop&#8211;and that cyclists are bright enough to know they are at a serious disadvantage should they fail to yield to autos.</p>
<p>On another point, and it may take a call to Car Talk to clarify this, but I don&#8217;t believe a nearly empty fuel tank is subject to greater evaporation. As I understand it, automobile gas tanks are sealed to prevent all that out-gassing, which would have a detrimental, if mildly pleasant, effect on our collective brain power. Then again, gas huffing would provide a good explanation for much of the behavior of the American collective.<br />
Happy Trails,<br />
Ron Georg<br />
Moab</p>
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