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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/11/commuting-101-make-them-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-127405</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no need for any of these. My front breaks squeal louder than any bell I&#039;ve heard and boy do people get out of the way when they hear it. In my experience yelling anything just confuses people. %90 of the time I yell &quot;passing on your left&quot; people dive to the left. I agree though, making sure people have time to make a decision is key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no need for any of these. My front breaks squeal louder than any bell I&#8217;ve heard and boy do people get out of the way when they hear it. In my experience yelling anything just confuses people. %90 of the time I yell &#8220;passing on your left&#8221; people dive to the left. I agree though, making sure people have time to make a decision is key.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/11/commuting-101-make-them-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-92735</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used an AirZounds air horn for a while. They&#039;re a lot of fun but only minimally useful, IMO. Blasting a horn does usually does nothing from a safety standpoint -- if you have time to blast the horn, you have time to hit the brakes or steer around the problem. Communicating with the driver is pointless -- they have no idea what they did wrong even if you honk at them. For real communication, my (loud) voice is usually effective, and it&#039;s usable even while my hands are occupied with the brakes and steering. As with most things, YMMV.

Agreed that AirZounds are not suitable for use around pedestrians -- I know people who advocate their use on pedestrian paths, but it seems antisocial to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used an AirZounds air horn for a while. They&#8217;re a lot of fun but only minimally useful, IMO. Blasting a horn does usually does nothing from a safety standpoint &#8212; if you have time to blast the horn, you have time to hit the brakes or steer around the problem. Communicating with the driver is pointless &#8212; they have no idea what they did wrong even if you honk at them. For real communication, my (loud) voice is usually effective, and it&#8217;s usable even while my hands are occupied with the brakes and steering. As with most things, YMMV.</p>
<p>Agreed that AirZounds are not suitable for use around pedestrians &#8212; I know people who advocate their use on pedestrian paths, but it seems antisocial to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean M</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/06/11/commuting-101-make-them-hear-you/comment-page-1/#comment-92734</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delt Air Zound -- the only thing I&#039;ve found that gets the attention of auto drivers. Unfortunately, the most use I get out of this air horn is a kind of post facto relief of aggression and frustration, sort of like shaking one&#039;s fist and yelling: &#039;hey you! you just cut me off!&#039; It&#039;s more effective than that, however, because the sound is so shockingly loud that it does send out a strong signal to a driver who has just cut off a cyclist buy turning into the Blockbuster video right in front of him without looking... 

The few instances where the horn seems to work to prevent vehicular misbehavior is in the case of cars doing u-turns and thinking they can swing their boat around before my bike arrives. The horn usually causes them to stop dead in their tracks, take notice, reasses my speed, and let me pass. Another instance where the horn comes in handy is when a car is ready to take a turn and does not make anything close to eye contact with me (approaching). Again, the horn gets their attention all right. 

I recommend using a horn for communicating with car drivers, both before and after they do something naughty. After the event at least lets them know that they just did something to aggravate a cyclist and may provoke some thought and behavior modification. For the instances where the horn can get a driver&#039;s attention before something bad happens, the horn is again a good communicator, much better, I&#039;d say, than a car horn. Bike horns often function to make me &quot;visible&quot; where I was invisible before. It is rare indeed the circumstance where a car horn fulfills this role, simply because drivers are generally aware of other cars (that&#039;s what they are looking for, not cyclists unfortunately...yet). 

However, if it is pedestrians that we are worried about, DON&#039;T USE THE AIRZOUND! it is so loud that it frightens people and can get you in serious trouble (ice cream cones flying, dogs yelping, grandmother gasping for air...). So, have a bell handy, too. I&#039;ve been meaning to get a bell. I&#039;ve heard that a local historical museum sells a nice, old-fashioned brass bell at a good price....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delt Air Zound &#8212; the only thing I&#8217;ve found that gets the attention of auto drivers. Unfortunately, the most use I get out of this air horn is a kind of post facto relief of aggression and frustration, sort of like shaking one&#8217;s fist and yelling: &#8216;hey you! you just cut me off!&#8217; It&#8217;s more effective than that, however, because the sound is so shockingly loud that it does send out a strong signal to a driver who has just cut off a cyclist buy turning into the Blockbuster video right in front of him without looking&#8230; </p>
<p>The few instances where the horn seems to work to prevent vehicular misbehavior is in the case of cars doing u-turns and thinking they can swing their boat around before my bike arrives. The horn usually causes them to stop dead in their tracks, take notice, reasses my speed, and let me pass. Another instance where the horn comes in handy is when a car is ready to take a turn and does not make anything close to eye contact with me (approaching). Again, the horn gets their attention all right. </p>
<p>I recommend using a horn for communicating with car drivers, both before and after they do something naughty. After the event at least lets them know that they just did something to aggravate a cyclist and may provoke some thought and behavior modification. For the instances where the horn can get a driver&#8217;s attention before something bad happens, the horn is again a good communicator, much better, I&#8217;d say, than a car horn. Bike horns often function to make me &#8220;visible&#8221; where I was invisible before. It is rare indeed the circumstance where a car horn fulfills this role, simply because drivers are generally aware of other cars (that&#8217;s what they are looking for, not cyclists unfortunately&#8230;yet). </p>
<p>However, if it is pedestrians that we are worried about, DON&#8217;T USE THE AIRZOUND! it is so loud that it frightens people and can get you in serious trouble (ice cream cones flying, dogs yelping, grandmother gasping for air&#8230;). So, have a bell handy, too. I&#8217;ve been meaning to get a bell. I&#8217;ve heard that a local historical museum sells a nice, old-fashioned brass bell at a good price&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Trek came with a little bell like the one you have pictured. But I&#039;m going to purchase one of the old fashioned types.

I&#039;m just not convinced that folks who hear that new type know what it is they&#039;re hearing.

The old style with its very distinctive ring seems like it would be a better idea. There&#039;s no doubt when you hear that old style that there&#039;s a bike around somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Trek came with a little bell like the one you have pictured. But I&#8217;m going to purchase one of the old fashioned types.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not convinced that folks who hear that new type know what it is they&#8217;re hearing.</p>
<p>The old style with its very distinctive ring seems like it would be a better idea. There&#8217;s no doubt when you hear that old style that there&#8217;s a bike around somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bells are great, but get a brass one.  Brass sounds much nicer than steel or aluminum.  My wife is a church music director and does a handbell choir.  There are no aluminum handbells.  There&#039;s a reason for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bells are great, but get a brass one.  Brass sounds much nicer than steel or aluminum.  My wife is a church music director and does a handbell choir.  There are no aluminum handbells.  There&#8217;s a reason for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite story: coming up behind a group of middle school kids running on the trail. (Track? Soccer? not sure.) The bell got a few of them off to the side, a few more with the &quot;on your left!&quot; 

But one kid was entirely oblivious -- ah, to be 12 -- and I had to call out his jersey number: &quot;you, number 48, move!&quot; because I was about on top of him with no way around. Finally one of his buddies grabbed him and pulled him over to where the rest of them were running.

Yesterday was the mini-flock of geese; luckily they were easier to maneuver around than middle school kids. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite story: coming up behind a group of middle school kids running on the trail. (Track? Soccer? not sure.) The bell got a few of them off to the side, a few more with the &#8220;on your left!&#8221; </p>
<p>But one kid was entirely oblivious &#8212; ah, to be 12 &#8212; and I had to call out his jersey number: &#8220;you, number 48, move!&#8221; because I was about on top of him with no way around. Finally one of his buddies grabbed him and pulled him over to where the rest of them were running.</p>
<p>Yesterday was the mini-flock of geese; luckily they were easier to maneuver around than middle school kids. <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karl McCracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl McCracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In quiet areas, just back-pedaling a couple of turns so that the ratchet thingy in the freewheel does it&#039;s stuff makes enough noise to let people know you&#039;re coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In quiet areas, just back-pedaling a couple of turns so that the ratchet thingy in the freewheel does it&#8217;s stuff makes enough noise to let people know you&#8217;re coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2008/06/invasion-of-frogs-rrriiiibike.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Speaking of frogs&lt;/a&gt;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2008/06/invasion-of-frogs-rrriiiibike.html" rel="nofollow">Speaking of frogs</a>&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PushingWind</title>
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		<dc:creator>PushingWind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using a cheapo bell on my commuter for years. It is a good way to &quot;announce your presence with authority&quot; without scaring the heck out of people. Most people I&#039;ve encountered on the bike path freak out when you call out &quot;rider&quot; or &quot;on your left&quot;. Although I did make some woman jump 4 feet straight up when I &quot;rang&quot; my bell 20 feet away while going slow. More than a few people have turned expecting/hoping to see an ice-cream vechile. I wish!

None of this helps with the music-listening 30-foot retractable leash using dog walkers. A leash should be less than the width of any path, or 6 feet max. I&#039;ve been clotheslined to the ground nearly a handful of times. Too bad we can&#039;t take corrective action with the leash or the holder.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using a cheapo bell on my commuter for years. It is a good way to &#8220;announce your presence with authority&#8221; without scaring the heck out of people. Most people I&#8217;ve encountered on the bike path freak out when you call out &#8220;rider&#8221; or &#8220;on your left&#8221;. Although I did make some woman jump 4 feet straight up when I &#8220;rang&#8221; my bell 20 feet away while going slow. More than a few people have turned expecting/hoping to see an ice-cream vechile. I wish!</p>
<p>None of this helps with the music-listening 30-foot retractable leash using dog walkers. A leash should be less than the width of any path, or 6 feet max. I&#8217;ve been clotheslined to the ground nearly a handful of times. Too bad we can&#8217;t take corrective action with the leash or the holder&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Cafn8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cafn8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an incredibell, and use it sometimes, but  most people seem oblivious to it in my area. What I have found to be pretty effective is to yank my rear shift lever (good old friction shifter) just enough to make the derailleur rattle.

It makes people think my bike is a neglected heap, and maybe they&#039;re right, but it seems to work, and it also seems unintentional, so it&#039;s less like I&#039;m saying &quot;get out of my way&quot; and more like they&#039;re discovering me on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an incredibell, and use it sometimes, but  most people seem oblivious to it in my area. What I have found to be pretty effective is to yank my rear shift lever (good old friction shifter) just enough to make the derailleur rattle.</p>
<p>It makes people think my bike is a neglected heap, and maybe they&#8217;re right, but it seems to work, and it also seems unintentional, so it&#8217;s less like I&#8217;m saying &#8220;get out of my way&#8221; and more like they&#8217;re discovering me on their own.</p>
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