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	<title>Comments on: Nema Jewel, Thunder Bike Shorts Review</title>
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		<title>By: xcskimt (robert)</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/07/30/nema-jewel-thunder-bike-shorts-review/comment-page-1/#comment-87266</link>
		<dc:creator>xcskimt (robert)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Warren.  Third bullet down on the description states removeable liner. I own the shorts and the liner comes out.  This is a really nice feature for short commutes or just want to wear them as normal shorts.  My version is a little different with the draw straps on the the sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Warren.  Third bullet down on the description states removeable liner. I own the shorts and the liner comes out.  This is a really nice feature for short commutes or just want to wear them as normal shorts.  My version is a little different with the draw straps on the the sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren T</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/07/30/nema-jewel-thunder-bike-shorts-review/comment-page-1/#comment-87265</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it wasn&#039;t just me?  I took the L back and got an XL...  Whew.

Robert -- I don&#039;t believe they come apart.  They&#039;re down the laundry shoot at the moment.

Adriel, I only get to wear bike shorts 50% of the time I ride due to laundry laziness.  The days I&#039;m in street clothes, five miles in feels like 20 miles with the bike shorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it wasn&#8217;t just me?  I took the L back and got an XL&#8230;  Whew.</p>
<p>Robert &#8212; I don&#8217;t believe they come apart.  They&#8217;re down the laundry shoot at the moment.</p>
<p>Adriel, I only get to wear bike shorts 50% of the time I ride due to laundry laziness.  The days I&#8217;m in street clothes, five miles in feels like 20 miles with the bike shorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot one BIG problem about NEMA shorts, they do run about two sizes smaller then NORMAL sizes. I mean NOT all of us are built like Tour-se France waifs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot one BIG problem about NEMA shorts, they do run about two sizes smaller then NORMAL sizes. I mean NOT all of us are built like Tour-se France waifs.</p>
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		<title>By: CaRider</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Specialized are nice, but almost 2x as much! Thanks for the review Warren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Specialized are nice, but almost 2x as much! Thanks for the review Warren.</p>
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		<title>By: xcskimt (robert)</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/07/30/nema-jewel-thunder-bike-shorts-review/comment-page-1/#comment-86876</link>
		<dc:creator>xcskimt (robert)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you remove the (inner-spandex short/chamois) from the shell?  Specialized has a nice pair of shorts that has a removable chamois liner.    
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=31201</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you remove the (inner-spandex short/chamois) from the shell?  Specialized has a nice pair of shorts that has a removable chamois liner.<br />
<a href="http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=31201" rel="nofollow">http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=31201</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>transition between normal clothes and the bike clothes.

i.e. you get used to the normal clothes and can bike for 20 miles with them, then you try the chamois clothes and your body is used to sitting a different way, so you have to readjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>transition between normal clothes and the bike clothes.</p>
<p>i.e. you get used to the normal clothes and can bike for 20 miles with them, then you try the chamois clothes and your body is used to sitting a different way, so you have to readjust.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, it takes one hour and twenty five minutes on average.  It is a gorgeous ride of a half mile of light traffic and 19.5 miles of bike/hike path winding through the woods and next to several small lakes.  I can&#039;t tell you how much I enjoy it.

Adriel, I haven&#039;t had any numbness problems with these.  I&#039;m not quite sure what you meant about transition problems but my typical routine when I hit the office is to get the laptop up and running, get coffee and answer a few e-mail messages ... taking about 15 minutes to get cooled down before I head to the rest room to get cleaned up and changed.  The nice thing about these shorts is that they don&#039;t look like typical bike shorts (although the spandex shorts are there under the ultra light shell).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, it takes one hour and twenty five minutes on average.  It is a gorgeous ride of a half mile of light traffic and 19.5 miles of bike/hike path winding through the woods and next to several small lakes.  I can&#8217;t tell you how much I enjoy it.</p>
<p>Adriel, I haven&#8217;t had any numbness problems with these.  I&#8217;m not quite sure what you meant about transition problems but my typical routine when I hit the office is to get the laptop up and running, get coffee and answer a few e-mail messages &#8230; taking about 15 minutes to get cooled down before I head to the rest room to get cleaned up and changed.  The nice thing about these shorts is that they don&#8217;t look like typical bike shorts (although the spandex shorts are there under the ultra light shell).</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny Flu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiny Flu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out http://www.nzoactive.com/

They&#039;re a New Zealand company, but they make shorts that I think might suit you if you don&#039;t like to have a full chamois when commuting.  I love &#039;proper&#039; cycling shorts, both road and MTB types. But for commuting I prefer something more casual that I can ware either &#039;commando&#039; or with underwear depending on the weather.

The NZO Dobies have a simple pad that&#039;s just right. I also dig the Radiators- although no padding. They&#039;re the most durable items of clothing I&#039;ve ever worn. MTB crashes and general handywork around the house... 

But I agree with Ringer, definitely don&#039;t look the cycling shorts part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.nzoactive.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzoactive.com/</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;re a New Zealand company, but they make shorts that I think might suit you if you don&#8217;t like to have a full chamois when commuting.  I love &#8216;proper&#8217; cycling shorts, both road and MTB types. But for commuting I prefer something more casual that I can ware either &#8216;commando&#8217; or with underwear depending on the weather.</p>
<p>The NZO Dobies have a simple pad that&#8217;s just right. I also dig the Radiators- although no padding. They&#8217;re the most durable items of clothing I&#8217;ve ever worn. MTB crashes and general handywork around the house&#8230; </p>
<p>But I agree with Ringer, definitely don&#8217;t look the cycling shorts part.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren, just wondering how long that 20 mile commute takes you.  Shorts look nice by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, just wondering how long that 20 mile commute takes you.  Shorts look nice by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got into the whole padded shorts thing, and then quit after seeing so many people without them.  I ride 20-30 miles some day in regular shorts, and it does not seem to hurt any more than the bike shorts (which hurt in different ways)  The biggest problem with the bike shorts for me now is they cause me to go numb in places that should never ever go numb.

Do you not have any transition problems with these?

The only time I would want them is if I was riding more than 25 miles without stopping.  But then lately I like to stop and rest every hour or so.  I find it recharges me better.

Thank you for the review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got into the whole padded shorts thing, and then quit after seeing so many people without them.  I ride 20-30 miles some day in regular shorts, and it does not seem to hurt any more than the bike shorts (which hurt in different ways)  The biggest problem with the bike shorts for me now is they cause me to go numb in places that should never ever go numb.</p>
<p>Do you not have any transition problems with these?</p>
<p>The only time I would want them is if I was riding more than 25 miles without stopping.  But then lately I like to stop and rest every hour or so.  I find it recharges me better.</p>
<p>Thank you for the review.</p>
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