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	<title>Comments on: Interbike: The Loring &#8211; an affordable, practical side of Civia</title>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shiny Flu: I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself.  Greenwashing in the bike industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shiny Flu: I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.  Greenwashing in the bike industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiny Flu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiny Flu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bikes are an excellent example of the devolution of the idea that riding a bike can lessen one&#039;s global foot print.

We all know how and where most/all the bits and pieces to build and maintain our bikes come from.  The only people that will be stupid enough to purchase one of these ugly bikes will only use the bike to &#039;be cool&#039; (since owning a pretty bike is the latest trend- to be &#039;green&#039;). By that I mean this bike wont be ridden enough to make all the energy and pollution that went into creating it, worth it.

Utter complete wasteful consumerism for consumers that consume but don&#039;t use. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bikes are an excellent example of the devolution of the idea that riding a bike can lessen one&#8217;s global foot print.</p>
<p>We all know how and where most/all the bits and pieces to build and maintain our bikes come from.  The only people that will be stupid enough to purchase one of these ugly bikes will only use the bike to &#8216;be cool&#8217; (since owning a pretty bike is the latest trend- to be &#8216;green&#8217;). By that I mean this bike wont be ridden enough to make all the energy and pollution that went into creating it, worth it.</p>
<p>Utter complete wasteful consumerism for consumers that consume but don&#8217;t use. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Shek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont see the beauty either. Maybe it looks better in person. Most bikes do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont see the beauty either. Maybe it looks better in person. Most bikes do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I personally think it&#039;s sinfully ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I personally think it&#8217;s sinfully ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Grahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Grahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I like the Loring is because it&#039;s an extremely beautiful bike that has some great specs as well.

Yes, absolutely, if you&#039;re looking to get the most features/specs/whatever for you buck, then Civia isn&#039;t for you.  However, there is a large group of people that will pay extra to own something beautiful.

Think Macbook Air.  The specs are crap for the price, but their are a) hipsters who will buy it cause it&#039;s cool and b) people that are willing to pay extra just to have something beautiful.

These are the people Civia is going after.  People that want a great bike and are willing to pay extra to have something beautiful.

If I had disposable income, I would surely look hard at the Loring for the bamboo racks, beautiful paint job and all the extras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I like the Loring is because it&#8217;s an extremely beautiful bike that has some great specs as well.</p>
<p>Yes, absolutely, if you&#8217;re looking to get the most features/specs/whatever for you buck, then Civia isn&#8217;t for you.  However, there is a large group of people that will pay extra to own something beautiful.</p>
<p>Think Macbook Air.  The specs are crap for the price, but their are a) hipsters who will buy it cause it&#8217;s cool and b) people that are willing to pay extra just to have something beautiful.</p>
<p>These are the people Civia is going after.  People that want a great bike and are willing to pay extra to have something beautiful.</p>
<p>If I had disposable income, I would surely look hard at the Loring for the bamboo racks, beautiful paint job and all the extras.</p>
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		<title>By: acline</title>
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		<dc:creator>acline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[This comment is aimed at the company...not the blogger.]

$1600 and no chain guard?

Too funny.

Speaking as town-biker and short-distance commuter who uses a bicycle as daily basic transportation, this bike is certainly nice to look at but appears to offers frills instead of substance. There are many appropriate town bikes by good companies for half the price that beat this hand down.

Bamboo fenders? Oh, brother.</description>
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<p>$1600 and no chain guard?</p>
<p>Too funny.</p>
<p>Speaking as town-biker and short-distance commuter who uses a bicycle as daily basic transportation, this bike is certainly nice to look at but appears to offers frills instead of substance. There are many appropriate town bikes by good companies for half the price that beat this hand down.</p>
<p>Bamboo fenders? Oh, brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauricio Babilonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauricio Babilonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks a whole lot like the original Specialized Globe, which was a flop at the what, $500 price point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks a whole lot like the original Specialized Globe, which was a flop at the what, $500 price point?</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll echo the sentiment. It&#039;s a step in the right direction at best.

I&#039;m going to throw waaaay back to the &quot;bicycle shops share the blame&quot; discussion. We need more bike shops showing how easy it is to accessorize their entry-level offerings for commuting.  I&#039;d be a lot more tempted to look at a Trek FX with fenders, lights a lock and rack, all pre-assembled with the cost of accessories rolled in, than I would be to look at things over $1000 (like the Portland or a Civia Loring)

With that out of the way... is this a one-size-fits-most unisex mixte or what?  I love the lines, if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo the sentiment. It&#8217;s a step in the right direction at best.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to throw waaaay back to the &#8220;bicycle shops share the blame&#8221; discussion. We need more bike shops showing how easy it is to accessorize their entry-level offerings for commuting.  I&#8217;d be a lot more tempted to look at a Trek FX with fenders, lights a lock and rack, all pre-assembled with the cost of accessories rolled in, than I would be to look at things over $1000 (like the Portland or a Civia Loring)</p>
<p>With that out of the way&#8230; is this a one-size-fits-most unisex mixte or what?  I love the lines, if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get this bike either but I guess I&#039;m not the target demographic. I think the the target audience is people who drive BMW but want to be &quot;Green&quot; by riding their bike to the local Whole Foods to get some groceries. For someone who has a lot of disposable income $1400 ~ $1600 is not much money. Especially for guys/gals who have a $10,000 full carbon road bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get this bike either but I guess I&#8217;m not the target demographic. I think the the target audience is people who drive BMW but want to be &#8220;Green&#8221; by riding their bike to the local Whole Foods to get some groceries. For someone who has a lot of disposable income $1400 ~ $1600 is not much money. Especially for guys/gals who have a $10,000 full carbon road bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Shek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a high cost for a grocery getter. I don&#039;t get it. $1400 to $1600!
Am I missing something? 
How about a cheap and sturdy dutch bike. City bike sales will go through the roof with rising fuel prices. 

What does this bike have that the Simple City does not? You can even get a new Xtracycle longtail complete bike and haul more than just groceries at cheaper prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a high cost for a grocery getter. I don&#8217;t get it. $1400 to $1600!<br />
Am I missing something?<br />
How about a cheap and sturdy dutch bike. City bike sales will go through the roof with rising fuel prices. </p>
<p>What does this bike have that the Simple City does not? You can even get a new Xtracycle longtail complete bike and haul more than just groceries at cheaper prices.</p>
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