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	<title>Comments on: Interbike: Exciting new Xtracycle options</title>
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		<title>By: Arleigh</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/09/30/interbike-exciting-new-xtracycle-options/comment-page-1/#comment-94603</link>
		<dc:creator>Arleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for all of you that don&#039;t have stocking Xtracycle dealers.  The distributor QBP that many shops deal with now has the 700c and 26&quot; xtracycle kits in stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for all of you that don&#8217;t have stocking Xtracycle dealers.  The distributor QBP that many shops deal with now has the 700c and 26&#8243; xtracycle kits in stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolan, I&#039;ve been following the development of alternative kickstands for the X for a while. There are a number of choices out there, but none that really do the trick like this one. You can see something similar in the work of Val Kleitz:

http://tinyurl.com/valkickstand (as seen in Nollij&#039;s Flickr pages).

I believe he is selling his individually hand-crafted pieces at about $200. I exchanged email with him a long time back and came close to buying, but chose to wait.

See this topic on the Xtracycle forum for more history and why I think the Kickback will be very welcome, even at the current price. 

http://tinyurl.com/xkickstandhistory

Why I&#039;m buying one: My X has taken too many a dive when I&#039;ve misloaded it or unloaded the left side of the bike first (ooops). I&#039;m looking forward to something that will be solid and can clearly be adjusted to suit the needs of the bike, the load, and the cyclist. That simply doesn&#039;t come at an inexpensive price when built with some ethical business practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolan, I&#8217;ve been following the development of alternative kickstands for the X for a while. There are a number of choices out there, but none that really do the trick like this one. You can see something similar in the work of Val Kleitz:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/valkickstand" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/valkickstand</a> (as seen in Nollij&#8217;s Flickr pages).</p>
<p>I believe he is selling his individually hand-crafted pieces at about $200. I exchanged email with him a long time back and came close to buying, but chose to wait.</p>
<p>See this topic on the Xtracycle forum for more history and why I think the Kickback will be very welcome, even at the current price. </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/xkickstandhistory" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/xkickstandhistory</a></p>
<p>Why I&#8217;m buying one: My X has taken too many a dive when I&#8217;ve misloaded it or unloaded the left side of the bike first (ooops). I&#8217;m looking forward to something that will be solid and can clearly be adjusted to suit the needs of the bike, the load, and the cyclist. That simply doesn&#8217;t come at an inexpensive price when built with some ethical business practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolan Halbrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolan Halbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kickstand is definitely a welcome addition, but for $140 I&#039;ll have to pass.  Maybe at half that price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kickstand is definitely a welcome addition, but for $140 I&#8217;ll have to pass.  Maybe at half that price?</p>
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		<title>By: BiggerDummy</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/09/30/interbike-exciting-new-xtracycle-options/comment-page-1/#comment-94132</link>
		<dc:creator>BiggerDummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy:

Thanks for the info.  Will do shortly.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy:</p>
<p>Thanks for the info.  Will do shortly.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wanted to concur with the point above about not driving much if you own an xtracycle...i assembled my xtracycle 3-4 weeks ago and have used that bike every-single-day and not used my vehicle once during that time for shopping.   

basically - my xtracycle has changed the way i interact with my neighbourhood - and - I LOVE IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wanted to concur with the point above about not driving much if you own an xtracycle&#8230;i assembled my xtracycle 3-4 weeks ago and have used that bike every-single-day and not used my vehicle once during that time for shopping.   </p>
<p>basically &#8211; my xtracycle has changed the way i interact with my neighbourhood &#8211; and &#8211; I LOVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy at Xtracycle</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/09/30/interbike-exciting-new-xtracycle-options/comment-page-1/#comment-93997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy at Xtracycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigger Dummy:
Yes, you can use the wideloaders with our KickBack, they pass right through.

Email me, jeremy at xtracycle dot com and we&#039;ll discuss dealing with shipping to canada, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigger Dummy:<br />
Yes, you can use the wideloaders with our KickBack, they pass right through.</p>
<p>Email me, jeremy at xtracycle dot com and we&#8217;ll discuss dealing with shipping to canada, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: BiggerDummy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BiggerDummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil:

Thanks for the info!  Did they indicate whether you need to remove the kickback&#039;s stubs to insert wideloaders or is it a simple pass through?  I&#039;d hate to have to take off the stand to install wideloaders.

I may have to do some gymnastics to get mine as their webstore won&#039;t ship to Canuckistan :) Liking the Whatchamacollahs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>Thanks for the info!  Did they indicate whether you need to remove the kickback&#8217;s stubs to insert wideloaders or is it a simple pass through?  I&#8217;d hate to have to take off the stand to install wideloaders.</p>
<p>I may have to do some gymnastics to get mine as their webstore won&#8217;t ship to Canuckistan <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Liking the Whatchamacollahs too.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BiggerDummy:

I spoke to one of the folks at Xtracycle today about the KickBack. It is spring loaded, will fit on Wideloaders, and has it&#039;s own stubs/pivot inserts. Can&#039;t wait to get mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BiggerDummy:</p>
<p>I spoke to one of the folks at Xtracycle today about the KickBack. It is spring loaded, will fit on Wideloaders, and has it&#8217;s own stubs/pivot inserts. Can&#8217;t wait to get mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shek, thanks for the heads-up...unfortunately, welding is not one of my skills.  I may hit up this guy for some insight into the design of the centerstand, though!

Although I&#039;m not in the market for one, I dig the Radish bike...and it seems just as Gunther said -- one size fits [most]all.  The FreeRad + bike frame works just fine for carrying superhuman loads, and an integrated frame (liike the BD) is just icing on the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shek, thanks for the heads-up&#8230;unfortunately, welding is not one of my skills.  I may hit up this guy for some insight into the design of the centerstand, though!</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m not in the market for one, I dig the Radish bike&#8230;and it seems just as Gunther said &#8212; one size fits [most]all.  The FreeRad + bike frame works just fine for carrying superhuman loads, and an integrated frame (liike the BD) is just icing on the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure a lot of thinking went into the &quot;build long tail vs. bolt-on&quot; for the new Radish, but it seems to be in keeping with their new &quot;open source&quot; strategy; hey, there are a lot of bikes out there that they&#039;ve spent time making their product work with,  why not keep their cost (=our cost) down by using an existing good design?  

Another reason why they may have opted for this particular design is that it uses that crank-forwardesque setup to make this a one size fits all model. This wasn&#039;t mentioned above, but is great when sharing the bike b/w two different people...  &quot;Honey, I&#039;m taking the Radish today!&quot; Er, OK, maybe at this price a twofer is in order!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure a lot of thinking went into the &#8220;build long tail vs. bolt-on&#8221; for the new Radish, but it seems to be in keeping with their new &#8220;open source&#8221; strategy; hey, there are a lot of bikes out there that they&#8217;ve spent time making their product work with,  why not keep their cost (=our cost) down by using an existing good design?  </p>
<p>Another reason why they may have opted for this particular design is that it uses that crank-forwardesque setup to make this a one size fits all model. This wasn&#8217;t mentioned above, but is great when sharing the bike b/w two different people&#8230;  &#8220;Honey, I&#8217;m taking the Radish today!&#8221; Er, OK, maybe at this price a twofer is in order!</p>
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