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	<title>Comments on: New York State Legislation to Push Pedestrian &amp; Cyclist Bill</title>
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		<title>By: LoneRider</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the fact that drivers will at least face some penalty, but we all know the dangers of minimum penalties [like that 750$ fine or 15 day jail term] which is that if you set a minimum, that is usuallly all they get.

Second, I do not appreciate the association of cyclists with pedestrians, as cyclists operate as vehicular road users.  This association is common; some cities even have &quot;bicycle and pedestrian&quot; coordinators, but what this association does is confuse drivers at best and at worst, teach people that we are not vehicular road users and therefore should not be on the street but should adopt pedestrian behavior -- going against traffic or being off the usuable road surface or on sidewalks or paths.  These misconceptions can be crippling to the use of the bicycle as a form of transport or sport.  already I have to worry is the driver sees me. I don&#039;t want him to have to sit there and debate with himself whether or not I&#039;m a vehicle and theretofore, whether or not he has to yield to me.  If the city is going to deal with cyclists and pedestrians it&#039;d be better to treat them as what they are, two distinct types of road users, rather than lumping them together and risking further misconception of the part of drivers, most of whom are already very ignorant of how cyclists operate on the street unless they happen to bicycle regularly themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the fact that drivers will at least face some penalty, but we all know the dangers of minimum penalties [like that 750$ fine or 15 day jail term] which is that if you set a minimum, that is usuallly all they get.</p>
<p>Second, I do not appreciate the association of cyclists with pedestrians, as cyclists operate as vehicular road users.  This association is common; some cities even have &#8220;bicycle and pedestrian&#8221; coordinators, but what this association does is confuse drivers at best and at worst, teach people that we are not vehicular road users and therefore should not be on the street but should adopt pedestrian behavior &#8212; going against traffic or being off the usuable road surface or on sidewalks or paths.  These misconceptions can be crippling to the use of the bicycle as a form of transport or sport.  already I have to worry is the driver sees me. I don&#8217;t want him to have to sit there and debate with himself whether or not I&#8217;m a vehicle and theretofore, whether or not he has to yield to me.  If the city is going to deal with cyclists and pedestrians it&#8217;d be better to treat them as what they are, two distinct types of road users, rather than lumping them together and risking further misconception of the part of drivers, most of whom are already very ignorant of how cyclists operate on the street unless they happen to bicycle regularly themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: mbt shoes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chi flat iron</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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