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		<title>By: Stop the spam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop the spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you need a better spam filter for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you need a better spam filter for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: adp</title>
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		<dc:creator>adp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am self-employed in the financial services and find that commuting by bike makes money.  I have a very fuel-efficient car that&#039;s paid off, and it&#039;s insured for liability only.  My bike is an old Miyata 210 that I keep rebuilding as needed.  So there&#039;s not much advantage in savings.  The biggest advantage is that I feel more relaxed and focused, and therefore more productive, at work.  Also, the gentle exercise relieves stress and, in my opinion, prevents lost days to illness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am self-employed in the financial services and find that commuting by bike makes money.  I have a very fuel-efficient car that&#8217;s paid off, and it&#8217;s insured for liability only.  My bike is an old Miyata 210 that I keep rebuilding as needed.  So there&#8217;s not much advantage in savings.  The biggest advantage is that I feel more relaxed and focused, and therefore more productive, at work.  Also, the gentle exercise relieves stress and, in my opinion, prevents lost days to illness.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m young and have never owned a car--only borrowed.  But here&#039;s how my expenses worked out on the few days I took a car to DC.

Bike:

Initial Cost--Bike: $70
Initial Cost--Reelights: $40

Car:
Parking: $10/day (7am-7pm)
Parking: $275/month (private lot)

I give food a wash since I tend to eat more than I need to when I don&#039;t bike and I tend to eat about the right amount when I do bike.  In terms of bike fixes I had a piece of glass in my rim which cost me 2 tubes within a week--but that was nothing compared to the $500 timing belt I had to replace in the car.

Granted, I have a cheap bike and fix it up myself, but one month of car usage costs more than my bike has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m young and have never owned a car&#8211;only borrowed.  But here&#8217;s how my expenses worked out on the few days I took a car to DC.</p>
<p>Bike:</p>
<p>Initial Cost&#8211;Bike: $70<br />
Initial Cost&#8211;Reelights: $40</p>
<p>Car:<br />
Parking: $10/day (7am-7pm)<br />
Parking: $275/month (private lot)</p>
<p>I give food a wash since I tend to eat more than I need to when I don&#8217;t bike and I tend to eat about the right amount when I do bike.  In terms of bike fixes I had a piece of glass in my rim which cost me 2 tubes within a week&#8211;but that was nothing compared to the $500 timing belt I had to replace in the car.</p>
<p>Granted, I have a cheap bike and fix it up myself, but one month of car usage costs more than my bike has.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Brunsdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Brunsdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree on Rob.E about using cyclists alternative fuel sources with different cost values.

The Calories to $ is not the same for you as it is for me. My breakfast consists of Pronutro and fructose and this comes to 2500 Calories to the US$ for me.

Now I burn 565 Calories on my morning commute of 4 miles, which translates into 6cents per mile cycling.

Also following sport nutrition guidliness will have a big impact on the food choice. Hence my reason for using fructose and pronutro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree on Rob.E about using cyclists alternative fuel sources with different cost values.</p>
<p>The Calories to $ is not the same for you as it is for me. My breakfast consists of Pronutro and fructose and this comes to 2500 Calories to the US$ for me.</p>
<p>Now I burn 565 Calories on my morning commute of 4 miles, which translates into 6cents per mile cycling.</p>
<p>Also following sport nutrition guidliness will have a big impact on the food choice. Hence my reason for using fructose and pronutro.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is you can figure that out using your MPG, cost of gas, and distance to work.  You do not need the calories burned by a car to figure that out. Calories required to move a car figure in to the MPG, but if you already know your mpg, you don&#039;t actually need them to make the computation.  If it were a word problem, the calories burned by the car would be the red herring the teacher threw in there that would have you cussing them out when you got your graded test back.

Also, I don&#039;t think you can equate eaten calories to miles travelled with nearly the precision that you can calculate miles per gallon.  And the cost of a muffin is not necessarily the cost of calories.  I eat breakfast every day.  Usually it&#039;s the same breakfast, or at least if it varies it has nothing to do with whether or not I bike to work. On that basis, I guess my caloric cost of biking to work is zero. It&#039;s a free ride every time I don&#039;t drive.

Also, the fact that you pay 3.00 for a muffin and feel that it gives you 8 miles of travel does not mean that universally food eaten to bike &gt; gas required.  Some people might go further on that muffin.  Some people might use cheaper and/or more calorie dense food.

I can believe that some people require a lot of calories as a result of bicycling, possibly more calories than than you could afford from the equivalent amount of gas.  I can easily believe some people spend far more on food than gas.  I just don&#039;t believe that you can say definitively that food required for biking costs more than gasoline.  Not with the data at hand at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is you can figure that out using your MPG, cost of gas, and distance to work.  You do not need the calories burned by a car to figure that out. Calories required to move a car figure in to the MPG, but if you already know your mpg, you don&#8217;t actually need them to make the computation.  If it were a word problem, the calories burned by the car would be the red herring the teacher threw in there that would have you cussing them out when you got your graded test back.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think you can equate eaten calories to miles travelled with nearly the precision that you can calculate miles per gallon.  And the cost of a muffin is not necessarily the cost of calories.  I eat breakfast every day.  Usually it&#8217;s the same breakfast, or at least if it varies it has nothing to do with whether or not I bike to work. On that basis, I guess my caloric cost of biking to work is zero. It&#8217;s a free ride every time I don&#8217;t drive.</p>
<p>Also, the fact that you pay 3.00 for a muffin and feel that it gives you 8 miles of travel does not mean that universally food eaten to bike &gt; gas required.  Some people might go further on that muffin.  Some people might use cheaper and/or more calorie dense food.</p>
<p>I can believe that some people require a lot of calories as a result of bicycling, possibly more calories than than you could afford from the equivalent amount of gas.  I can easily believe some people spend far more on food than gas.  I just don&#8217;t believe that you can say definitively that food required for biking costs more than gasoline.  Not with the data at hand at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The calories burned by a car are not especially relevant. All one needs is the miles per gallon and the cost of gas.&quot;

Hmmm...well, let&#039;s see: a muffin at Starbucks costs about $3.00, provides 400 calories, and might get me about eight miles down the road on my bicycle. I get eight miles per $3.00.

A gallon of gasoline costs about $3.00, provides about 31,000 calories, and might get me about twenty miles down the road in my car. I get twenty miles per $3.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The calories burned by a car are not especially relevant. All one needs is the miles per gallon and the cost of gas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;well, let&#8217;s see: a muffin at Starbucks costs about $3.00, provides 400 calories, and might get me about eight miles down the road on my bicycle. I get eight miles per $3.00.</p>
<p>A gallon of gasoline costs about $3.00, provides about 31,000 calories, and might get me about twenty miles down the road in my car. I get twenty miles per $3.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question at hand is whether or not it costs more in food to bike than it does in gas to drive.  So I guess the questions to be answered are: How many calories does a person at rest burn? How much does it cost in food to make up the difference in required calories?  Do you even have to make up the difference in calories?  For some people, I&#039;m sure they do.  For me, if I strive to get more calories to balance my biking, I&#039;m not helping myself out at all.

The calories burned by a car are not especially relevant.  All one needs is the miles per gallon and the cost of gas.

For my part, I&#039;m fairly certain my monthly grocery bill has not gone up by the amount I would have spent in gas. I&#039;m not convinced my food consumption has gone up at all. If anything, exercising more regularly makes me more health conscious, and less prone to unhealthy snacking. I know there are people for whom that&#039;s not true, people who dramatically increase their food intake in response to exercise, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an across-the-board figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question at hand is whether or not it costs more in food to bike than it does in gas to drive.  So I guess the questions to be answered are: How many calories does a person at rest burn? How much does it cost in food to make up the difference in required calories?  Do you even have to make up the difference in calories?  For some people, I&#8217;m sure they do.  For me, if I strive to get more calories to balance my biking, I&#8217;m not helping myself out at all.</p>
<p>The calories burned by a car are not especially relevant.  All one needs is the miles per gallon and the cost of gas.</p>
<p>For my part, I&#8217;m fairly certain my monthly grocery bill has not gone up by the amount I would have spent in gas. I&#8217;m not convinced my food consumption has gone up at all. If anything, exercising more regularly makes me more health conscious, and less prone to unhealthy snacking. I know there are people for whom that&#8217;s not true, people who dramatically increase their food intake in response to exercise, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an across-the-board figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have a very hard time thinking that food eaten is anywhere near mpg in gas.&quot;

A person burns between 30 to 100 calories per mile by bicycle, depending mostly on speed, but also on fitness, etc. A car going at 20 MPH for an hour, and getting 20 MPG, burns about 31,000 calories, or about 1,550 calories per mile, or 15 times as much. To be fair, though, the car might weigh 15 times as much, too. A motorized bicycle with fuel efficiency of 200 MPG is fairly close to a rider&#039;s efficiency. I believe electric bicycles have much higher efficiency than humans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have a very hard time thinking that food eaten is anywhere near mpg in gas.&#8221;</p>
<p>A person burns between 30 to 100 calories per mile by bicycle, depending mostly on speed, but also on fitness, etc. A car going at 20 MPH for an hour, and getting 20 MPG, burns about 31,000 calories, or about 1,550 calories per mile, or 15 times as much. To be fair, though, the car might weigh 15 times as much, too. A motorized bicycle with fuel efficiency of 200 MPG is fairly close to a rider&#8217;s efficiency. I believe electric bicycles have much higher efficiency than humans&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very hard time thinking that food eaten is anywhere near mpg in gas.  It may be for someone with a very high metabolism, or who has an exceptionally long commute, but I&#039;m just not convinced.  I know for my part, I eat a lot whether I&#039;m biking or not. ;-)  The biking may increase my appetite a little, but one look at the scale shows that I am eating more than is required to get myself to work and back, and I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only one.

Then there&#039;s the exercise issue. Many people feel that without cycling, they would spend more time in the gym. If that&#039;s the case, they would burn the calories there, rather than on the bike, and it seems the net change in food intake would be nil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very hard time thinking that food eaten is anywhere near mpg in gas.  It may be for someone with a very high metabolism, or who has an exceptionally long commute, but I&#8217;m just not convinced.  I know for my part, I eat a lot whether I&#8217;m biking or not. <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   The biking may increase my appetite a little, but one look at the scale shows that I am eating more than is required to get myself to work and back, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the exercise issue. Many people feel that without cycling, they would spend more time in the gym. If that&#8217;s the case, they would burn the calories there, rather than on the bike, and it seems the net change in food intake would be nil.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BillThBikeDude: 

&quot;Has anybody ever tried to quantify the miles per gallon of food that a bicyclist burns/requires?&quot;

You can probably use this message board post -- comparing the per-trip carbon output of an electric car and a bicycle -- as a touchstone:

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/tesla-roadster/3486-bike-vs-roadster.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BillThBikeDude: </p>
<p>&#8220;Has anybody ever tried to quantify the miles per gallon of food that a bicyclist burns/requires?&#8221;</p>
<p>You can probably use this message board post &#8212; comparing the per-trip carbon output of an electric car and a bicycle &#8212; as a touchstone:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/tesla-roadster/3486-bike-vs-roadster.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/tesla-roadster/3486-bike-vs-roadster.html</a></p>
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