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		<title>By: Garry Market</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is a well written post. I just bookmarked your site. Kindly continue the amazingly good posts.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Most of all just find a friend or someone you know that does not ride and take them on a cruise around town with you or group. It’s a experience they soon won’t forget.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a great sentiment. I wonder what we could accomplish if everyone who bikes regularly could just try to get one more person on at least one ride this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Most of all just find a friend or someone you know that does not ride and take them on a cruise around town with you or group. It’s a experience they soon won’t forget.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great sentiment. I wonder what we could accomplish if everyone who bikes regularly could just try to get one more person on at least one ride this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well American people don&#039;t wont to give up there car or internal combustion engine because of what it affords them.  Which is the ability to get somewhere distant extremely fast and to go several hundred miles in one day.  Since I started to really get into mountain biking and riding it all over town some things have really bothered me.  How in the hell does bicycling always turn into a political debate?  I somewhat consider myself a conservative but not main stream more like Ron Paul.  I have a Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 which I love ride around in and shuttle my bike to far off trails.  I come from a automotive background my dream is to one day either work in or own a high end hot rod shop.  My first bike shop bike I bought while at a school that trained people to build custom cars from the ground up.  I bought it to save on gas and in the end it really saved me.  I like how a mundane car trip to the movie theater can turn into a enjoyable and pleasant cruise on a bike.  I also like how a bike forces you to slow down and look at what is around you.  If you want to help people get away from cars inform them why they should. Tell them how the internal combustion engine is at it pinnacle, gasoline is the best fuel thats why it is used the most.  Per gallon no other fuel offers as many BTU&#039;s, ethanol only provides half what gasoline does per gallon thats why you horrible MPG&#039;s on it.  BTU&#039;s are important because all the engine is trying to do is heat up the nitrogen in the air, when the nitrogen expands it pushes the cylinder down.  Hybrids are horrible designs that only benefit people that live in city&#039;s and never go over 35MPH&#039;s.  That the strip mining they do for the battery packs is nut&#039;s.  Most of all just find a friend or someone you know that does not ride and take them on a cruise around town with you or group.  It&#039;s a experience they soon won&#039;t forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well American people don&#8217;t wont to give up there car or internal combustion engine because of what it affords them.  Which is the ability to get somewhere distant extremely fast and to go several hundred miles in one day.  Since I started to really get into mountain biking and riding it all over town some things have really bothered me.  How in the hell does bicycling always turn into a political debate?  I somewhat consider myself a conservative but not main stream more like Ron Paul.  I have a Chevrolet Silverado 4&#215;4 which I love ride around in and shuttle my bike to far off trails.  I come from a automotive background my dream is to one day either work in or own a high end hot rod shop.  My first bike shop bike I bought while at a school that trained people to build custom cars from the ground up.  I bought it to save on gas and in the end it really saved me.  I like how a mundane car trip to the movie theater can turn into a enjoyable and pleasant cruise on a bike.  I also like how a bike forces you to slow down and look at what is around you.  If you want to help people get away from cars inform them why they should. Tell them how the internal combustion engine is at it pinnacle, gasoline is the best fuel thats why it is used the most.  Per gallon no other fuel offers as many BTU&#8217;s, ethanol only provides half what gasoline does per gallon thats why you horrible MPG&#8217;s on it.  BTU&#8217;s are important because all the engine is trying to do is heat up the nitrogen in the air, when the nitrogen expands it pushes the cylinder down.  Hybrids are horrible designs that only benefit people that live in city&#8217;s and never go over 35MPH&#8217;s.  That the strip mining they do for the battery packs is nut&#8217;s.  Most of all just find a friend or someone you know that does not ride and take them on a cruise around town with you or group.  It&#8217;s a experience they soon won&#8217;t forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ted, for the wikipedia article.  I didn&#039;t know that about gasoline!  Fascinating...

I know what you mean about unrealiable electricity.  The electricity was only recently privitized in El Salvador a few years ago, and has greatly improved since then, but I have still seen some sketchy bills.  I personally (well, actually, my wife... as a non-citizen I can&#039;t own property) have seen a bill one month at $7 for 85 kWh jump to $35 for 79 kWh for no reason at all.  Not to mention the meter is situated atop a 25 foot pole and takes binoculars to read!

However, despite the apparent unreliability in billing, the actual electrical supply is extremely reliable.  This country has geo and hydrothermal electricity out the wazoo and as far as I can tell, unless you are out in the boondocks, produces a steady 120 volts with about the same fluctuation we find in the states (+/- 5 volts, maybe).  Blackouts and brownouts seems pretty rare, as long as you&#039;re in the city.

The most important factor in this country is cost, and it is by far cheaper to put a ICE on a bike in this country than it is to import an electric bicycle.  Even if long-term costs outway the initial investment, people here would never even consider buying an electric bike. The most expensive bicycle I&#039;ve found (not counting the specialty shops in the capital) runs for around $120.  That includes fenders, a rear rack, and a front dynamo headlight.  It&#039;s a heavy one, but people here could care less about weight, considering they use bicycles to haul everything from sugar cane to scrap metal.

But why am I blabbering on about Central America?  Let&#039;s focus on what electric bicycles can do for the good old U S of A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ted, for the wikipedia article.  I didn&#8217;t know that about gasoline!  Fascinating&#8230;</p>
<p>I know what you mean about unrealiable electricity.  The electricity was only recently privitized in El Salvador a few years ago, and has greatly improved since then, but I have still seen some sketchy bills.  I personally (well, actually, my wife&#8230; as a non-citizen I can&#8217;t own property) have seen a bill one month at $7 for 85 kWh jump to $35 for 79 kWh for no reason at all.  Not to mention the meter is situated atop a 25 foot pole and takes binoculars to read!</p>
<p>However, despite the apparent unreliability in billing, the actual electrical supply is extremely reliable.  This country has geo and hydrothermal electricity out the wazoo and as far as I can tell, unless you are out in the boondocks, produces a steady 120 volts with about the same fluctuation we find in the states (+/- 5 volts, maybe).  Blackouts and brownouts seems pretty rare, as long as you&#8217;re in the city.</p>
<p>The most important factor in this country is cost, and it is by far cheaper to put a ICE on a bike in this country than it is to import an electric bicycle.  Even if long-term costs outway the initial investment, people here would never even consider buying an electric bike. The most expensive bicycle I&#8217;ve found (not counting the specialty shops in the capital) runs for around $120.  That includes fenders, a rear rack, and a front dynamo headlight.  It&#8217;s a heavy one, but people here could care less about weight, considering they use bicycles to haul everything from sugar cane to scrap metal.</p>
<p>But why am I blabbering on about Central America?  Let&#8217;s focus on what electric bicycles can do for the good old U S of A.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrehn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrehn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are more great examples of why bicycles are so beautiful. Just about anybody can follow their muse with a bicycle. Keep on keeping&#039; on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are more great examples of why bicycles are so beautiful. Just about anybody can follow their muse with a bicycle. Keep on keeping&#8217; on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Curnutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Curnutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine recently bought a used electric bike that I soon took for a spin.  Holy cow it would be easy to get addicted to riding one of those.  Very quiet and very effortless. I almost felt like I was cheating. In fact I did feel like I was cheating, but it was still quite a bit of fun. I&#039;d own one of those over a gas powered moped, but I still prefer the human engine on my bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine recently bought a used electric bike that I soon took for a spin.  Holy cow it would be easy to get addicted to riding one of those.  Very quiet and very effortless. I almost felt like I was cheating. In fact I did feel like I was cheating, but it was still quite a bit of fun. I&#8217;d own one of those over a gas powered moped, but I still prefer the human engine on my bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vintage engine looks like an old Ducati Cucciolo, produced just after WWII, when Italy was getting back on its feet. It was popular when gas and material were short. As gas prices rise, people will look for alternatives. Electric bikes are still a bit expensive, but a gas engine in a bike that gets better milage than a Prius if gas hits $5/gal in 2012 like someone important predicted will appeal to many.

A scooter or moped would certainly be better as a reliable commuter, faster too, but where you can buy a cheap engine kit and MalWart Cruiser for less than $300, even a used scooter will cost more than twice as much. 

Plus, in our state, no license required for &quot;motor powered bicycles&quot; of less than 50cc. I think the only thing keeping hordes of pre-license teens from being early and ardent adopters are computers and console games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vintage engine looks like an old Ducati Cucciolo, produced just after WWII, when Italy was getting back on its feet. It was popular when gas and material were short. As gas prices rise, people will look for alternatives. Electric bikes are still a bit expensive, but a gas engine in a bike that gets better milage than a Prius if gas hits $5/gal in 2012 like someone important predicted will appeal to many.</p>
<p>A scooter or moped would certainly be better as a reliable commuter, faster too, but where you can buy a cheap engine kit and MalWart Cruiser for less than $300, even a used scooter will cost more than twice as much. </p>
<p>Plus, in our state, no license required for &#8220;motor powered bicycles&#8221; of less than 50cc. I think the only thing keeping hordes of pre-license teens from being early and ardent adopters are computers and console games.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I wonder if the electric bike would ever do well down here.&lt;/em&gt;

My international experience, as I said in my post, is in Africa; most of that in Cameroon. My friends in Cameroon go without many electric appliances such as a refrigerator, dishwasher, washing machine, etc. not because the appliances are unavailable, and not necessarily because my friends can&#039;t afford them. A major factor is that the state-run power company is extremely unreliable.  Conversely, the gas stations rarely run dry.  (And if they do, there are always opportunists who smuggle Nigerian gas over the border and set up by the side of the road to sell it by the liter.) 

There are many reasons that we use gasoline in this world.  It stores a lot of energy per pound, and it&#039;s not particularly volatile compared to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density#Energy_densities_ignoring_external_components&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other combustible materials with the same or greater energy density&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t imagine e-bikes taking off anywhere there is an unreliable source of electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I wonder if the electric bike would ever do well down here.</em></p>
<p>My international experience, as I said in my post, is in Africa; most of that in Cameroon. My friends in Cameroon go without many electric appliances such as a refrigerator, dishwasher, washing machine, etc. not because the appliances are unavailable, and not necessarily because my friends can&#8217;t afford them. A major factor is that the state-run power company is extremely unreliable.  Conversely, the gas stations rarely run dry.  (And if they do, there are always opportunists who smuggle Nigerian gas over the border and set up by the side of the road to sell it by the liter.) </p>
<p>There are many reasons that we use gasoline in this world.  It stores a lot of energy per pound, and it&#8217;s not particularly volatile compared to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density#Energy_densities_ignoring_external_components" rel="nofollow">other combustible materials with the same or greater energy density</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t imagine e-bikes taking off anywhere there is an unreliable source of electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KevinW,

I&#039;ve been living off and on in El Salvador for around a year and when I&#039;m here, I always see a lot of these converted bicycles.  I see a lot of people pushing broken down motorcycles and scooters too, and my guess is that Ted is on the right track when he notes that there is security knowing that you can pedal your way home in the event the motor breaks down.  I guess those people riding motorized bicycles just got tired of pushing around their motorcycles.

I wonder if the electric bike would ever do well down here.  But for some reason people down here are scared to death of paying electricity bills, but pay high prices for gas all day long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KevinW,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been living off and on in El Salvador for around a year and when I&#8217;m here, I always see a lot of these converted bicycles.  I see a lot of people pushing broken down motorcycles and scooters too, and my guess is that Ted is on the right track when he notes that there is security knowing that you can pedal your way home in the event the motor breaks down.  I guess those people riding motorized bicycles just got tired of pushing around their motorcycles.</p>
<p>I wonder if the electric bike would ever do well down here.  But for some reason people down here are scared to death of paying electricity bills, but pay high prices for gas all day long.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only speculate.

I&#039;m considering a electric-assist bike sometime in my future, but there are two things holding me back: (1) The cost, and (2) the exoticness of the technology.

If the noise, smell, mess, and proximate pollution of the engine kit weren&#039;t factors, I would easily find myself considering a motor kit (or a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whizzermotorbike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whizzer&lt;/a&gt;-style moped). I like the option of pedaling when the engine breaks down or runs out of gas. Pushing a motorcycle or a scooter sucks.

I&#039;m not a small engine mechanic, but I&#039;ve maintained small internal combustion engines before, and I know I could learn how to maintain my bike&#039;s motor.

If there is any broader pattern to your anecdotal observations on the demographics, then I can imagine that these are guys who aren&#039;t intimidated by small internal combustion engines, because they&#039;ve been around them their entire lives.

But noise, smell, mess, and proximate pollution &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; factors for me, so I find myself priced out of my other options now, and intimidated by the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only speculate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m considering a electric-assist bike sometime in my future, but there are two things holding me back: (1) The cost, and (2) the exoticness of the technology.</p>
<p>If the noise, smell, mess, and proximate pollution of the engine kit weren&#8217;t factors, I would easily find myself considering a motor kit (or a <a href="http://www.whizzermotorbike.com/" rel="nofollow">Whizzer</a>-style moped). I like the option of pedaling when the engine breaks down or runs out of gas. Pushing a motorcycle or a scooter sucks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a small engine mechanic, but I&#8217;ve maintained small internal combustion engines before, and I know I could learn how to maintain my bike&#8217;s motor.</p>
<p>If there is any broader pattern to your anecdotal observations on the demographics, then I can imagine that these are guys who aren&#8217;t intimidated by small internal combustion engines, because they&#8217;ve been around them their entire lives.</p>
<p>But noise, smell, mess, and proximate pollution <i>are</i> factors for me, so I find myself priced out of my other options now, and intimidated by the technology.</p>
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