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	<title>Comments on: Le Tour d&#8217;Indifférence: Peter Flax Interview</title>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/02/le-tour-dindifference-peter-flax-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-321529</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fnerd: I don&#039;t mean for my indifference to interfere with your enjoyment of the Tour de France. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/12/peace-love-and-tour-potatoes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m working on it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fnerd: I don&#8217;t mean for my indifference to interfere with your enjoyment of the Tour de France. <a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/12/peace-love-and-tour-potatoes/" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m working on it</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: fnerd</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/02/le-tour-dindifference-peter-flax-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-321422</link>
		<dc:creator>fnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,

If you&#039;re so indifferent to the Tour, please be quiet and let the rest of us enjoy it. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re so indifferent to the Tour, please be quiet and let the rest of us enjoy it. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack B</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/02/le-tour-dindifference-peter-flax-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-319161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the interview was respectful. It did really show a different way of thinking about bicycling. Personally I am a big fan of the TdF, but I am also an NFL fan. I have no more ambition to race a bicycle than to play football. I have commuted more days than not for two years by bike (actually mixed mode, a little car drive to get past unsafe roads near my house). I also do some charity rides and some randonneuring, but riding for transportation s always the most satisfying. In fact I like to ride to and from the local charity rides. A day without driving the car is a victory to me.

I sometimes pick up a copy of Bicycling magazine, but it is never that satisfying. The magazines that are delivered to my house are Bicycling Times and Momentum. I always enjoy those. I would rank my practical motivations to ride as health, economic, and then environmental. Really just the joy of riding has become foremost. After this interview, I see why my view of bicycling as transportation versus bicycling as sport, makes Bicycling magazine less satisfying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the interview was respectful. It did really show a different way of thinking about bicycling. Personally I am a big fan of the TdF, but I am also an NFL fan. I have no more ambition to race a bicycle than to play football. I have commuted more days than not for two years by bike (actually mixed mode, a little car drive to get past unsafe roads near my house). I also do some charity rides and some randonneuring, but riding for transportation s always the most satisfying. In fact I like to ride to and from the local charity rides. A day without driving the car is a victory to me.</p>
<p>I sometimes pick up a copy of Bicycling magazine, but it is never that satisfying. The magazines that are delivered to my house are Bicycling Times and Momentum. I always enjoy those. I would rank my practical motivations to ride as health, economic, and then environmental. Really just the joy of riding has become foremost. After this interview, I see why my view of bicycling as transportation versus bicycling as sport, makes Bicycling magazine less satisfying.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene @ BU</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/07/02/le-tour-dindifference-peter-flax-interview/comment-page-1/#comment-306386</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene @ BU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 01:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After this interview I think I have an identity crisis. I own 5.5 bikes (2 commuter, 1 road, 1 mountain, 1 cyclocross, and an IBEX trailer +.5) and I use them all for biking to work and weekend fun.  I also work in a downtown office building with 362 other people and I’m the only one who bikes to work (25 mile round trip). The main reason why others won’t try biking is safety and the weather (I live in upstate New York). On my way to work I ride through a state university campus of 12,000 students and the only bikes I see are at the gym. I hear the same things from students why they wouldn’t consider a bike: safety and the weather.  This area will never be a Davis, Portland, Fort Collins, Settle, or Austin (Thanks Lance!) when it comes to cycling and for people like me I’ve gotten used to the fact that I’m an anomaly in a sea of fast moving cars. But then I’m one of the vast majority of commuter cyclists in the U.S. We don’t live in metro areas with an advocacy group supporting us and we’re on the road on our own and left to our own devices. I pass up Bicycling Magazine since it doesn’t have anything to say to me out here on the open roads I travel each day. BTW, I do watch the Tour de France and I’m following the BMC team. I get energized watching the race and the crowds and I dream of biking in a country where cycling is appreciated. Then it’s back to the stark reality of cycling in upstate New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After this interview I think I have an identity crisis. I own 5.5 bikes (2 commuter, 1 road, 1 mountain, 1 cyclocross, and an IBEX trailer +.5) and I use them all for biking to work and weekend fun.  I also work in a downtown office building with 362 other people and I’m the only one who bikes to work (25 mile round trip). The main reason why others won’t try biking is safety and the weather (I live in upstate New York). On my way to work I ride through a state university campus of 12,000 students and the only bikes I see are at the gym. I hear the same things from students why they wouldn’t consider a bike: safety and the weather.  This area will never be a Davis, Portland, Fort Collins, Settle, or Austin (Thanks Lance!) when it comes to cycling and for people like me I’ve gotten used to the fact that I’m an anomaly in a sea of fast moving cars. But then I’m one of the vast majority of commuter cyclists in the U.S. We don’t live in metro areas with an advocacy group supporting us and we’re on the road on our own and left to our own devices. I pass up Bicycling Magazine since it doesn’t have anything to say to me out here on the open roads I travel each day. BTW, I do watch the Tour de France and I’m following the BMC team. I get energized watching the race and the crowds and I dream of biking in a country where cycling is appreciated. Then it’s back to the stark reality of cycling in upstate New York.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why is there such hostility to road cycling?&lt;/em&gt;

I hope you detected no hostility in this article and interview.  Didn&#039;t I say that &quot;I couldn’t agree more&quot; with Flax&#039; closing message?

&lt;em&gt;Indifference&lt;/em&gt; is not the same as &lt;em&gt;hostility&lt;/em&gt;. My personal limitation is that I&#039;ve never been able to get into &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; sport as a spectator. (See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/06/30/bill-waltons-bike-my-gym-my-wheelchair-and-my-church/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my recent post on Bill Walton&lt;/a&gt;). It&#039;s very easy for me to imagine someone being a road cyclist and still not give a dang about the Tour de France.

By the same token. If someone has a road bike, why not commute on it? Nobody said anything about sacrilege. I believe (as do many people) that road bikes are not comfortable or appropriate for the kind of casual riding or commuting that would be done by 90% of people who currently aren&#039;t cycling but could benefit from buying a bike and start using it instead of a car.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Why is there such hostility to road cycling?</em></p>
<p>I hope you detected no hostility in this article and interview.  Didn&#8217;t I say that &#8220;I couldn’t agree more&#8221; with Flax&#8217; closing message?</p>
<p><em>Indifference</em> is not the same as <em>hostility</em>. My personal limitation is that I&#8217;ve never been able to get into <em>any</em> sport as a spectator. (See <a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2011/06/30/bill-waltons-bike-my-gym-my-wheelchair-and-my-church/" rel="nofollow">my recent post on Bill Walton</a>). It&#8217;s very easy for me to imagine someone being a road cyclist and still not give a dang about the Tour de France.</p>
<p>By the same token. If someone has a road bike, why not commute on it? Nobody said anything about sacrilege. I believe (as do many people) that road bikes are not comfortable or appropriate for the kind of casual riding or commuting that would be done by 90% of people who currently aren&#8217;t cycling but could benefit from buying a bike and start using it instead of a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is there such hostility to road cycling?  It seems unfounded and unnecessary to me.

I&#039;m both a commuter and a &quot;sport&quot; cyclist, I commute 44 miles round trip 4x a week.  I use a road bike because it gets me to work/home faster.  I didn&#039;t realize I was being sacrilegious by not opting for a commuter bike on my commute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there such hostility to road cycling?  It seems unfounded and unnecessary to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m both a commuter and a &#8220;sport&#8221; cyclist, I commute 44 miles round trip 4x a week.  I use a road bike because it gets me to work/home faster.  I didn&#8217;t realize I was being sacrilegious by not opting for a commuter bike on my commute.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great questions, Ted. well done revealing the mentality of the wannabe racer group (including you-should-want-to-work-on-your-bike, which has happened to me though I never thought it would).

that said, I don&#039;t blame Peter for where he&#039;s coming from. he is oriented toward his readers, who have 4.5 bikes and probably tend toward the weekend warrior type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great questions, Ted. well done revealing the mentality of the wannabe racer group (including you-should-want-to-work-on-your-bike, which has happened to me though I never thought it would).</p>
<p>that said, I don&#8217;t blame Peter for where he&#8217;s coming from. he is oriented toward his readers, who have 4.5 bikes and probably tend toward the weekend warrior type.</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Peter makes a pretty good ambassador for cycling, but I think if he really wants &lt;i&gt;Bicycling Magazine&lt;/i&gt; to promote bicycles better he should take a lesson from the hot rod magazines: on the covers he should put really hot chicks in g-string bikinis draped all over the bikes.

THAT&#039;LL get even the gear headed kids to buy and read the magazine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Peter makes a pretty good ambassador for cycling, but I think if he really wants <i>Bicycling Magazine</i> to promote bicycles better he should take a lesson from the hot rod magazines: on the covers he should put really hot chicks in g-string bikinis draped all over the bikes.</p>
<p>THAT&#8217;LL get even the gear headed kids to buy and read the magazine!</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goes without saying, but don&#039;t feed the troll...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goes without saying, but don&#8217;t feed the troll&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TCOPE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCOPE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skimmed the interview with Peter Flax of Bicycling magazine.  Got to the questions about &quot;political gap of cycling&quot; and debated falling asleep or putting a bullet in my head.  
Questions I would pose to Ted Johnson of Commute by Bike if given the opportunity to interview him:  
1.  Why is everyone that commutes by bike a dweeb...
2.  How do bike commuters avoid wrecking their carbon wheels on the curbs.... oh they don&#039;t use carbon wheels...
3.  If I drive my 4x4 SUV gas guzzler 3 miles to work and then do a century ride in the peleton on the weekend do you hate me?

Tour de France - cool
Commuting to work - for people that believe in global warming....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skimmed the interview with Peter Flax of Bicycling magazine.  Got to the questions about &#8220;political gap of cycling&#8221; and debated falling asleep or putting a bullet in my head.<br />
Questions I would pose to Ted Johnson of Commute by Bike if given the opportunity to interview him:<br />
1.  Why is everyone that commutes by bike a dweeb&#8230;<br />
2.  How do bike commuters avoid wrecking their carbon wheels on the curbs&#8230;. oh they don&#8217;t use carbon wheels&#8230;<br />
3.  If I drive my 4&#215;4 SUV gas guzzler 3 miles to work and then do a century ride in the peleton on the weekend do you hate me?</p>
<p>Tour de France &#8211; cool<br />
Commuting to work &#8211; for people that believe in global warming&#8230;.</p>
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