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		<title>By: BlueBerry Pick'N</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueBerry Pick'N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome: 
&quot; ...I&#039;m on a MotherFucking Bike... &quot;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCqz3l33kU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome:<br />
&#8221; &#8230;I&#8217;m on a MotherFucking Bike&#8230; &#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCqz3l33kU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCqz3l33kU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Stemrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Stemrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This list seems to be a mixture of on-road bike lane and bike path issues. I&#039;ve had issues with some of these, but not all. On-road bike paths, I do have issues with:
1. Drivers opening driver-side doors without looking.
2. Drivers making a right turn without looking.
3. Folks who are waiting for a bus and step into the bike lane to look down the road to see if their bus is coming - without looking.

On the path, I&#039;ve had issues with:
1. Kids trailing behind their parents, darting all over the path.  
2. Students sitting on the bike path, sometimes lying across, even though there is nice, soft grass off the bike path for them to sit on.
3. Folks power-walking with leashed dogs AND wearing headphones. Nice.

Fact is, bike paths are really multi-use paths, so the cyclists are affected by these things in ways that everyone else is not. We&#039;ve moving faster than they are. Roads are their own multi-use paths with a myriad of other ways cyclists are affected by things that motorists are not.

Sometimes we just have to slow down for the irresponsible/clueless behavior of others. People tend to forget how their behavior affects others directly, and we have all been that person to someone at some time. Patience is the best tool to use here. Serenity now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This list seems to be a mixture of on-road bike lane and bike path issues. I&#8217;ve had issues with some of these, but not all. On-road bike paths, I do have issues with:<br />
1. Drivers opening driver-side doors without looking.<br />
2. Drivers making a right turn without looking.<br />
3. Folks who are waiting for a bus and step into the bike lane to look down the road to see if their bus is coming &#8211; without looking.</p>
<p>On the path, I&#8217;ve had issues with:<br />
1. Kids trailing behind their parents, darting all over the path.<br />
2. Students sitting on the bike path, sometimes lying across, even though there is nice, soft grass off the bike path for them to sit on.<br />
3. Folks power-walking with leashed dogs AND wearing headphones. Nice.</p>
<p>Fact is, bike paths are really multi-use paths, so the cyclists are affected by these things in ways that everyone else is not. We&#8217;ve moving faster than they are. Roads are their own multi-use paths with a myriad of other ways cyclists are affected by things that motorists are not.</p>
<p>Sometimes we just have to slow down for the irresponsible/clueless behavior of others. People tend to forget how their behavior affects others directly, and we have all been that person to someone at some time. Patience is the best tool to use here. Serenity now.</p>
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		<title>By: Opus the Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opus the Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are these &quot;bike lanes&quot; you speak of? We know them not in these parts. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are these &#8220;bike lanes&#8221; you speak of? We know them not in these parts. <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JonO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diego - 

Not trying to hijack the original post but I noticed your reply and wanted to reply back.  I live in Floral Park so I&#039;m in the midst of the so called &#039;NIMBY&#039; crowd (your words, not mine).  I&#039;m a bike commuter and for recreation I ride the Santiago Creek Trail all the time.  I LOVE the new extension that goes to Villa Park and it&#039;s allowed my friends and I to take our families on group bike rides and have picnics without our kids having to ride on the street, etc.  Its just awesome.  I&#039;d love to have the extension done to Fisher Park and I&#039;ve tried to gather as much info as possible on the pro trail site as well as the non pro trail site.  The key issue for me is the issue of imminent domain (which I am not in favor of).  I can&#039;t get a straight answer anywhere on whether or not imminent domain would be used to finish the Santiago Trail and there are several friends and neighbors who haven&#039;t really chosen a side because of this issue.  If you&#039;re someone who can edit the pro trail site you posted, you guys would do well to directly address the issue of imminent domain with a straight yes or no answer including city references.

Side note:  As far as the Memory Lane Class II bike path, I loved it when they removed the traffic lane and added the Class II lane but there are MANY times where I encounter morons actually driving IN the bike lane.  Check it out:  

http://gutchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/02/nice-driving-jack-off.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diego &#8211; </p>
<p>Not trying to hijack the original post but I noticed your reply and wanted to reply back.  I live in Floral Park so I&#8217;m in the midst of the so called &#8216;NIMBY&#8217; crowd (your words, not mine).  I&#8217;m a bike commuter and for recreation I ride the Santiago Creek Trail all the time.  I LOVE the new extension that goes to Villa Park and it&#8217;s allowed my friends and I to take our families on group bike rides and have picnics without our kids having to ride on the street, etc.  Its just awesome.  I&#8217;d love to have the extension done to Fisher Park and I&#8217;ve tried to gather as much info as possible on the pro trail site as well as the non pro trail site.  The key issue for me is the issue of imminent domain (which I am not in favor of).  I can&#8217;t get a straight answer anywhere on whether or not imminent domain would be used to finish the Santiago Trail and there are several friends and neighbors who haven&#8217;t really chosen a side because of this issue.  If you&#8217;re someone who can edit the pro trail site you posted, you guys would do well to directly address the issue of imminent domain with a straight yes or no answer including city references.</p>
<p>Side note:  As far as the Memory Lane Class II bike path, I loved it when they removed the traffic lane and added the Class II lane but there are MANY times where I encounter morons actually driving IN the bike lane.  Check it out:  </p>
<p><a href="http://gutchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/02/nice-driving-jack-off.html" rel="nofollow">http://gutchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/02/nice-driving-jack-off.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JonO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, awesome post.  People #2 are, without question, the worst in my neck of the woods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, awesome post.  People #2 are, without question, the worst in my neck of the woods.</p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my bike commute home I also face families, and there is the usual kid who runs astray just before you.

When I read the title of this article, I also thought of people who don&#039;t want to allow the construction of bike paths. Here in North Orange County, CA, we are facing a serious NIMBY case (check: www.neighbors4trail.org)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my bike commute home I also face families, and there is the usual kid who runs astray just before you.</p>
<p>When I read the title of this article, I also thought of people who don&#8217;t want to allow the construction of bike paths. Here in North Orange County, CA, we are facing a serious NIMBY case (check: <a href="http://www.neighbors4trail.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.neighbors4trail.org</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bicycle commute on the same campus as you and I&#039;ve run into (sometimes literally) your entire list. Thanks for the belly laugh first thing this morning! Number two seems to be the one I deal with the most. Sometimes the back and forth is nearly comical as they jump to the left and then the right. Man, but I do love Spring Break when the campus is nice and quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bicycle commute on the same campus as you and I&#8217;ve run into (sometimes literally) your entire list. Thanks for the belly laugh first thing this morning! Number two seems to be the one I deal with the most. Sometimes the back and forth is nearly comical as they jump to the left and then the right. Man, but I do love Spring Break when the campus is nice and quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I attended NAU, way back in the Last Century, for a while I drove the shuttle bus which went between North Campus and South Campus. I don&#039;t remember seeing ANY bicycles back then, and you could drive your car everywhere.

Many of the roads I remember blazing down in my sports car (much to the chagrin of the Campus Cops) are now limited to pedestrians and bicycles.

So, I guess it&#039;s a GOOD thing that they took motorized vehicles out of there, although I can appreciate your frustration, Samuel, with your Dozen Idiots. I face my OWN set of idiots when I ride in the so-called &quot;bike lanes&quot; in Phoenix; and, unlike your Construction Worker, these clowns are all INSIDE their two-ton weapons and ROLLING when they pull THEIR dumb stunts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I attended NAU, way back in the Last Century, for a while I drove the shuttle bus which went between North Campus and South Campus. I don&#8217;t remember seeing ANY bicycles back then, and you could drive your car everywhere.</p>
<p>Many of the roads I remember blazing down in my sports car (much to the chagrin of the Campus Cops) are now limited to pedestrians and bicycles.</p>
<p>So, I guess it&#8217;s a GOOD thing that they took motorized vehicles out of there, although I can appreciate your frustration, Samuel, with your Dozen Idiots. I face my OWN set of idiots when I ride in the so-called &#8220;bike lanes&#8221; in Phoenix; and, unlike your Construction Worker, these clowns are all INSIDE their two-ton weapons and ROLLING when they pull THEIR dumb stunts.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Voyer-Caravona-</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Voyer-Caravona-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAU is perhaps the most stressful area in Flag to traverse by bike due to all of the above.  I find Lazy Susan perhaps the worst offender, as well as all the people in head phones wlaking and weaving in and out of the bike lane.  On the other hand, I am always struck that university campuses usually seem to be great models of walkable/bikeable communities.  The university population accepts it for what it is and accommodates the more limited car access by walking, biking and using the bus.  At Unv. Of Georgia they told us at orientation that you have to learn to use the bus, were handed a route map and expected to learn it.  NAU is the one school I&#039;ve encountered (wked there but didn&#039;t attend) that seems to have accommodated cars, although that seems to be changing w/the the schools plans for growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAU is perhaps the most stressful area in Flag to traverse by bike due to all of the above.  I find Lazy Susan perhaps the worst offender, as well as all the people in head phones wlaking and weaving in and out of the bike lane.  On the other hand, I am always struck that university campuses usually seem to be great models of walkable/bikeable communities.  The university population accepts it for what it is and accommodates the more limited car access by walking, biking and using the bus.  At Unv. Of Georgia they told us at orientation that you have to learn to use the bus, were handed a route map and expected to learn it.  NAU is the one school I&#8217;ve encountered (wked there but didn&#8217;t attend) that seems to have accommodated cars, although that seems to be changing w/the the schools plans for growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bicycle commute takes place mostly on low speed neighborhood roads, so I rarely have to deal with crazy traffic patterns. I wouldn&#039;t say that I think of it as a war, but there are some funny/annoying things out there.

The first (or last, depending on how you look at it) part of my commute is on a separated bike lane. Even though it is clearly labeled as a bike lane, cycling in my little corner of NC is considered an extreme sport and nearly everyone uses it as a walking path. My favorite walkers are the Red Rover Walkers. They walk shoulder to shoulder 5 or 6 across and occupy not only the whole lane, but also portions of the grassy area on either side.

When you ring the bell, clack your brakes, or say &quot;Hello!&quot; they will be momentarily startled (no matter how often I meet the same people) and then attempt to move out of the way without breaking their line!

I find this easily more ridiculous and annoying than being briefly chased by &quot;friendly&quot; dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bicycle commute takes place mostly on low speed neighborhood roads, so I rarely have to deal with crazy traffic patterns. I wouldn&#8217;t say that I think of it as a war, but there are some funny/annoying things out there.</p>
<p>The first (or last, depending on how you look at it) part of my commute is on a separated bike lane. Even though it is clearly labeled as a bike lane, cycling in my little corner of NC is considered an extreme sport and nearly everyone uses it as a walking path. My favorite walkers are the Red Rover Walkers. They walk shoulder to shoulder 5 or 6 across and occupy not only the whole lane, but also portions of the grassy area on either side.</p>
<p>When you ring the bell, clack your brakes, or say &#8220;Hello!&#8221; they will be momentarily startled (no matter how often I meet the same people) and then attempt to move out of the way without breaking their line!</p>
<p>I find this easily more ridiculous and annoying than being briefly chased by &#8220;friendly&#8221; dogs.</p>
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