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	<title>Comments on: E-Bikes Land on Mars&#8230; Hill</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/06/07/e-bikes-land-on-mars-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-999182</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... Also Lowell does not win every year. Lets hear it for USGS building 6!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. Also Lowell does not win every year. Lets hear it for USGS building 6!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/06/07/e-bikes-land-on-mars-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-999147</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who regularly rides &quot;the hill&quot;, I usually start thinking about an e-bike just before the hairpin! 

A very nice read, glad you satisfied your pride ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who regularly rides &#8220;the hill&#8221;, I usually start thinking about an e-bike just before the hairpin! </p>
<p>A very nice read, glad you satisfied your pride <img src='http://www.commutebybike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JaimeRoberto</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/06/07/e-bikes-land-on-mars-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-999146</link>
		<dc:creator>JaimeRoberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me share some of my father&#039;s wisdom.  &quot;Everyone likes a little ass. Nobody likes a little smartass.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me share some of my father&#8217;s wisdom.  &#8220;Everyone likes a little ass. Nobody likes a little smartass.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/06/07/e-bikes-land-on-mars-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-998993</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill: The bikes that Josh and I used were both powered by the BionX system -- which adds proportionally to your pedal power; there is no throttle, per se. The range of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biketechshop.com/bionx-pl-350ht-electric-bike-conversion-kit-p-2410.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;350HT Kit&lt;/a&gt; is supposed to be 56 miles, based on some fairly ideal conditions. (I&#039;ve never ridden one until the battery was completely dead.)

I would only worry about that hill if it were the last 3/4 mile of a long commute where you were using &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt; of pedal assist before you got to the base of the hill. The nice thing about e-bikes is that you can budget for when you use the power, and save it for the places you know you don&#039;t want to be going unassisted.

I find that when I&#039;m on flat, the law of conservation of linear momentum means that I don&#039;t need to use any electric power to sustain my speed. I imagine that a frugal daily user of an e-bike could get really good at regulating their power use to stretch out their range -- even beyond the product&#039;s stated range. Whereas a profligate user of the electric power could end up with a dead battery a fraction of the stated range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill: The bikes that Josh and I used were both powered by the BionX system &#8212; which adds proportionally to your pedal power; there is no throttle, per se. The range of the <a href="http://www.biketechshop.com/bionx-pl-350ht-electric-bike-conversion-kit-p-2410.html" rel="nofollow">350HT Kit</a> is supposed to be 56 miles, based on some fairly ideal conditions. (I&#8217;ve never ridden one until the battery was completely dead.)</p>
<p>I would only worry about that hill if it were the last 3/4 mile of a long commute where you were using <em>a lot</em> of pedal assist before you got to the base of the hill. The nice thing about e-bikes is that you can budget for when you use the power, and save it for the places you know you don&#8217;t want to be going unassisted.</p>
<p>I find that when I&#8217;m on flat, the law of conservation of linear momentum means that I don&#8217;t need to use any electric power to sustain my speed. I imagine that a frugal daily user of an e-bike could get really good at regulating their power use to stretch out their range &#8212; even beyond the product&#8217;s stated range. Whereas a profligate user of the electric power could end up with a dead battery a fraction of the stated range.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill DeGroff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill DeGroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted, I&#039;d like to hear how the e-bikes performed -- enough power to get all the way up the  hill?  I&#039;ve considered buying an electric bike but have been concerned that the batteries would die half-way up the hill.  Then I would be left having to pedal up the hill with another 15 to 30 lb of &quot;dead&quot; weight.  I assume you were pedaling along with the motors -- how would you describe the performance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, I&#8217;d like to hear how the e-bikes performed &#8212; enough power to get all the way up the  hill?  I&#8217;ve considered buying an electric bike but have been concerned that the batteries would die half-way up the hill.  Then I would be left having to pedal up the hill with another 15 to 30 lb of &#8220;dead&#8221; weight.  I assume you were pedaling along with the motors &#8212; how would you describe the performance?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon: I figured that people who consider Michael Moore a hero would consider James O’Keefe a jerk, and vice versa. I felt like a jerk, so I made it a multiple choice comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon: I figured that people who consider Michael Moore a hero would consider James O’Keefe a jerk, and vice versa. I felt like a jerk, so I made it a multiple choice comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon McDuffie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon McDuffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another bit of relativity for you, Mr. Johnson: I live and bike in Detroit and have for all of my 65. My folks are or were nearly all autoworkers - black ones to boot, thus the most deeply affected by its current circumstances. I consider Michael Moore anything but a jerk, principally because I have been here to watch it all unfold and collapse, viewed from the inside. I consider Moore&#039;s view on Detroit visionary. Perhaps it looks different from where you are Sir, but that&#039;s only one view as well.

I feel that Mr. Moore - along with Philip Levine and Thomas Sugrue, for other examples - among writers about my town and its people with deeply-examined views worth consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another bit of relativity for you, Mr. Johnson: I live and bike in Detroit and have for all of my 65. My folks are or were nearly all autoworkers &#8211; black ones to boot, thus the most deeply affected by its current circumstances. I consider Michael Moore anything but a jerk, principally because I have been here to watch it all unfold and collapse, viewed from the inside. I consider Moore&#8217;s view on Detroit visionary. Perhaps it looks different from where you are Sir, but that&#8217;s only one view as well.</p>
<p>I feel that Mr. Moore &#8211; along with Philip Levine and Thomas Sugrue, for other examples &#8211; among writers about my town and its people with deeply-examined views worth consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: bergerandfries</title>
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		<dc:creator>bergerandfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smartassery: the curse of a clever mind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smartassery: the curse of a clever mind&#8230;</p>
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