<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Electric Car: A Fireless Dragon</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/</link>
	<description>Tips, Hints, Reviews and Safety for Bike Commuters</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 01:08:08 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1248766</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1248766</guid>
		<description>thank you for the article. People are being sold on the idea that we can all keep our habits exactly the same, driving around in our steel and glass bubbles as if fossil-fuel energy was limitless and the pollution both in the air and on the ground has no effect.


There are many city policies that can be supportive of limiting the space for automobile use, such as eliminating parking requirements in cities. If developers are forced to build extra parking, it encourages people to have automobiles in the first place, which is not in any way supportive of the public transit system, walking biking, etc. 
Does your city require off-street residential parking, even in urban dense areas? ASK THEM WHY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the article. People are being sold on the idea that we can all keep our habits exactly the same, driving around in our steel and glass bubbles as if fossil-fuel energy was limitless and the pollution both in the air and on the ground has no effect.</p>
<p>There are many city policies that can be supportive of limiting the space for automobile use, such as eliminating parking requirements in cities. If developers are forced to build extra parking, it encourages people to have automobiles in the first place, which is not in any way supportive of the public transit system, walking biking, etc.<br />
Does your city require off-street residential parking, even in urban dense areas? ASK THEM WHY!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1248753</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1248753</guid>
		<description>The people of this country need to rally around ending the subsidies, our tax-money, to oil companies, to the automobile industry, etc.

Possible game changer: a Property tax (or rent) break/rebate funded through an increase in the gasoline tax. 

A REVENUE-NEUTRAL proposal could be politically feasible, since the money is GIVEN BACK TO PEOPLE. You drive about the same, you pay the same. You drive even a little bit less, you SAVE money. Do people have the option of paying LESS for their residence in property tax/rent? Nope! This would be a way to fund it and discourage automobile use.

You make more efficient driving habits, more fuel efficient car, live closer to your destinations, maintain the car, walk/bike/public transit more, than people can OPT-OUT of paying so much at the pump and save $$$.
We need to make bold demands from our legislators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of this country need to rally around ending the subsidies, our tax-money, to oil companies, to the automobile industry, etc.</p>
<p>Possible game changer: a Property tax (or rent) break/rebate funded through an increase in the gasoline tax. </p>
<p>A REVENUE-NEUTRAL proposal could be politically feasible, since the money is GIVEN BACK TO PEOPLE. You drive about the same, you pay the same. You drive even a little bit less, you SAVE money. Do people have the option of paying LESS for their residence in property tax/rent? Nope! This would be a way to fund it and discourage automobile use.</p>
<p>You make more efficient driving habits, more fuel efficient car, live closer to your destinations, maintain the car, walk/bike/public transit more, than people can OPT-OUT of paying so much at the pump and save $$$.<br />
We need to make bold demands from our legislators.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1232472</link>
		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1232472</guid>
		<description>The ONLY electric car I&#039;m interested in is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleriffic_slide_960x640/model-s-signature-red_960x640_b.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tesla Model S&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah! A four-door sedan you can take out to the track and (silently) blow the doors off all the brand new Camaros and Mustangs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ONLY electric car I&#8217;m interested in is the <a href="http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleriffic_slide_960x640/model-s-signature-red_960x640_b.jpg" rel="nofollow">Tesla Model S</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah! A four-door sedan you can take out to the track and (silently) blow the doors off all the brand new Camaros and Mustangs!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Karl McCracken</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1232347</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl McCracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1232347</guid>
		<description>Nice piece! Fundamentally electric cars are a clutching-at-straws hope for business as usual for the automotive sector. They solve none of the society problems that their petrol equivalents create, and aren&#039;t even that green - the electricity used to charge their batteries has to come from somewhere, and in the most part that means burning carbon.

The worse thing about electric cars though is that in focusing on them, the government distracts people from the real issues with that promise of a pain-free, change-free world. And for the changes we have to make, time is running out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece! Fundamentally electric cars are a clutching-at-straws hope for business as usual for the automotive sector. They solve none of the society problems that their petrol equivalents create, and aren&#8217;t even that green &#8211; the electricity used to charge their batteries has to come from somewhere, and in the most part that means burning carbon.</p>
<p>The worse thing about electric cars though is that in focusing on them, the government distracts people from the real issues with that promise of a pain-free, change-free world. And for the changes we have to make, time is running out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kayti Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1230622</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayti Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1230622</guid>
		<description>The blind spot about electric cars blows my mind.  People around here speak of them as though they don&#039;t support the coal industry, the nuclear industry, fracking and all the other systems which anyone who is paying attention can see are unsustainable.   Plug in?  Where?  to what?  how much is it on the electric bill?
I live nearish to Boston, have used my bike as in-city transport and find it a joy as well as a new way to view the city.  It takes me less time in many cases to get around than if I were driving, no parking issues and with a folding bike, less chance of bike theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blind spot about electric cars blows my mind.  People around here speak of them as though they don&#8217;t support the coal industry, the nuclear industry, fracking and all the other systems which anyone who is paying attention can see are unsustainable.   Plug in?  Where?  to what?  how much is it on the electric bill?<br />
I live nearish to Boston, have used my bike as in-city transport and find it a joy as well as a new way to view the city.  It takes me less time in many cases to get around than if I were driving, no parking issues and with a folding bike, less chance of bike theft.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeff Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/10/03/the-electric-car-a-fireless-dragon/comment-page-1/#comment-1230476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.commutebybike.com/?p=21268#comment-1230476</guid>
		<description>The King decrees that we all (you all) will pay to subsidize dragons s/he favors.  The King REALLY decrees that we all (you all) will pay to subsidize so-called &quot;fireless dragons&quot;.

The King will never favor parceling privilege to bicycles over his/her beloved dragons.  Electric ones.  Gas ones.  Cherry juice-powered ones.  Whatever.  Did I say never?  I meant NEVER.  Never.  Not ever.  No one ever said the King was smart.

But the King is smart enough not to care about human life and health, or of reducing collisions and emissions as much as s/he cares about power.  All of the King&#039;s programs will never improve those measures as much as getting the King out of the chariot perpetuation business.

Wanna get fireless dragons off the road?  End the King&#039;s presumed authority to feed goodies to dragons.  Thereafter, when people account for the true cost of obtaining, feeding, and keeping healthy their dragon against the cost of cycling, we will succeed beyond your wildest dreams, Ted.  Short of that, protecting the King&#039;s privilege in hopes that s/he will see the blinding light and begin dishing out privilege rationally is another kind of dream - a pipe dream.    

Ted, your argument is reasoned and right, but too carefully parsed.  Henry Bliss may have been right too, but that didn&#039;t make him any less dead.  If slaying dragons is a good thing, then supporting the artificial system that created, feeds and perpetuates the beast and its lair in the hopes that a few leftover crumbs may fall our way makes no sense.  Being an ardent voice for bicycling and an equally ardent defender of managing the system that nurtures dragons is a draw favoring the dragon at the expense of the bicycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The King decrees that we all (you all) will pay to subsidize dragons s/he favors.  The King REALLY decrees that we all (you all) will pay to subsidize so-called &#8220;fireless dragons&#8221;.</p>
<p>The King will never favor parceling privilege to bicycles over his/her beloved dragons.  Electric ones.  Gas ones.  Cherry juice-powered ones.  Whatever.  Did I say never?  I meant NEVER.  Never.  Not ever.  No one ever said the King was smart.</p>
<p>But the King is smart enough not to care about human life and health, or of reducing collisions and emissions as much as s/he cares about power.  All of the King&#8217;s programs will never improve those measures as much as getting the King out of the chariot perpetuation business.</p>
<p>Wanna get fireless dragons off the road?  End the King&#8217;s presumed authority to feed goodies to dragons.  Thereafter, when people account for the true cost of obtaining, feeding, and keeping healthy their dragon against the cost of cycling, we will succeed beyond your wildest dreams, Ted.  Short of that, protecting the King&#8217;s privilege in hopes that s/he will see the blinding light and begin dishing out privilege rationally is another kind of dream &#8211; a pipe dream.    </p>
<p>Ted, your argument is reasoned and right, but too carefully parsed.  Henry Bliss may have been right too, but that didn&#8217;t make him any less dead.  If slaying dragons is a good thing, then supporting the artificial system that created, feeds and perpetuates the beast and its lair in the hopes that a few leftover crumbs may fall our way makes no sense.  Being an ardent voice for bicycling and an equally ardent defender of managing the system that nurtures dragons is a draw favoring the dragon at the expense of the bicycle.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
