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	<title>Comments on: ESGE Kickstand: Two Legs Work Better Than One</title>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
		<link>http://www.commutebybike.com/2013/02/27/esge-kickstand-two-legs-work-better-than-one/comment-page-1/#comment-1769694</link>
		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Yes, since I got the ESGE for the Giant, I have been seriously thinking about a two-legged kickstand for Bluetiful. Although the Greenfield seems to do an adequate job at this time, it is still a &quot;leaner&quot; and since I&#039;m thinking of adding some accessories which may well raise the center of gravity of the EZ-Sport I may face the same falling-over problem.

And thanks for reminding me about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plastidip.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Plasti Dip&lt;/a&gt;! My wife refuses to allow me to park any bike in the remodeled area of our house which has the new floor tile; some Plasti Dip on the sharp kickstand leg ends would be perfect to satisfy her concerns.

For those unfamiliar with Plasti Dip, it is just what the name says: a rubberized/plasticized dipping sauce for metal parts to protect them (and things they come into contact with) from rust, corrosion and scratches.

You can get it at almost any hardware store, and some auto parts stores, and you can colorize it to somewhat match the paint on your bike so you can brush it on your frame in the key areas where your locking chain or U-lock is going to contact it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Yes, since I got the ESGE for the Giant, I have been seriously thinking about a two-legged kickstand for Bluetiful. Although the Greenfield seems to do an adequate job at this time, it is still a &#8220;leaner&#8221; and since I&#8217;m thinking of adding some accessories which may well raise the center of gravity of the EZ-Sport I may face the same falling-over problem.</p>
<p>And thanks for reminding me about <a href="http://www.plastidip.com/" rel="nofollow">Plasti Dip</a>! My wife refuses to allow me to park any bike in the remodeled area of our house which has the new floor tile; some Plasti Dip on the sharp kickstand leg ends would be perfect to satisfy her concerns.</p>
<p>For those unfamiliar with Plasti Dip, it is just what the name says: a rubberized/plasticized dipping sauce for metal parts to protect them (and things they come into contact with) from rust, corrosion and scratches.</p>
<p>You can get it at almost any hardware store, and some auto parts stores, and you can colorize it to somewhat match the paint on your bike so you can brush it on your frame in the key areas where your locking chain or U-lock is going to contact it.</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O yeah, and try some Plasti-Dip on the ends to get a nice foot on them. They&#039;ll be much less likely to slip on less-flat or very smooth surfaces. There are also plastic or rubber feet available for about $3 a pair but Plasti-Dip provides just as good a tip while being thinner or just as thick as you want with a few extra coats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O yeah, and try some Plasti-Dip on the ends to get a nice foot on them. They&#8217;ll be much less likely to slip on less-flat or very smooth surfaces. There are also plastic or rubber feet available for about $3 a pair but Plasti-Dip provides just as good a tip while being thinner or just as thick as you want with a few extra coats.</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 22:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ESGE/Pletscher two-leg-but-fold-on-the-non-drive-side kickstands are really terrific. I love two-leg kickstands on recumbents but many of those that simply kick back on both sides of the bike either don&#039;t kick up high enough or the drive-side leg interferes with the chain. These fancy two-leg stands avoid both those problems.

Note that you can get a &quot;deluxe mounting kit&quot; for a few dollars which will protect your chainstays and also allow you to tighten the bolt down quite a bit more firmly. Either with or without it, I recommend some blue Loctite.

See this Amazon entry:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00695TIDU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B00695TIDU&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pletscher F8 cover plate for double kickstand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B00695TIDU&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt;


You don&#039;t need the cover plate; you get one with the kickstand, and you might even have one on your bike already. But the chain stay supports come with this &quot;cover plate kit&quot; and those are what you need.

BluesCat, if you haven&#039;t tried a two-leg kickstand on Bluetiful, I recommend you do it. It might require a custom mounting bracket to get one of these on an EZ-Sport – the EZ-1, Tour Easy, and many other recumbents have a standard mounting plate but not the EZ-Sport or any Bacchetta or Rans bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ESGE/Pletscher two-leg-but-fold-on-the-non-drive-side kickstands are really terrific. I love two-leg kickstands on recumbents but many of those that simply kick back on both sides of the bike either don&#8217;t kick up high enough or the drive-side leg interferes with the chain. These fancy two-leg stands avoid both those problems.</p>
<p>Note that you can get a &#8220;deluxe mounting kit&#8221; for a few dollars which will protect your chainstays and also allow you to tighten the bolt down quite a bit more firmly. Either with or without it, I recommend some blue Loctite.</p>
<p>See this Amazon entry:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00695TIDU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B00695TIDU&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=bishhu-20" rel="nofollow">Pletscher F8 cover plate for double kickstand</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=B00695TIDU" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need the cover plate; you get one with the kickstand, and you might even have one on your bike already. But the chain stay supports come with this &#8220;cover plate kit&#8221; and those are what you need.</p>
<p>BluesCat, if you haven&#8217;t tried a two-leg kickstand on Bluetiful, I recommend you do it. It might require a custom mounting bracket to get one of these on an EZ-Sport – the EZ-1, Tour Easy, and many other recumbents have a standard mounting plate but not the EZ-Sport or any Bacchetta or Rans bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. M - Your comment about the single kickstand on your touring bike working for you, even when the bike is fully loaded, got me to thinking ...

ALL of my commuting bikes have been either re-purposed mountain bikes ... or my recumbent. I kinda think that the kickstands on these bikes are sort of an afterthought: &quot;Well, I suppose MOST of our customers (except for the weight weenies and competitive riders) will want a kickstand. What do we have lying around the factory?&quot;

On a bike coming from the factory with the express purpose of being a &quot;touring bike,&quot; could it be that the single kickstand is considered an important component in the design of the overall bike, and so is selected with the idea that it needs to hold the bike up more vertically?

Dr. M, Does your tourer seem to &quot;stand up straighter&quot; than the guy with the mountain bike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. M &#8211; Your comment about the single kickstand on your touring bike working for you, even when the bike is fully loaded, got me to thinking &#8230;</p>
<p>ALL of my commuting bikes have been either re-purposed mountain bikes &#8230; or my recumbent. I kinda think that the kickstands on these bikes are sort of an afterthought: &#8220;Well, I suppose MOST of our customers (except for the weight weenies and competitive riders) will want a kickstand. What do we have lying around the factory?&#8221;</p>
<p>On a bike coming from the factory with the express purpose of being a &#8220;touring bike,&#8221; could it be that the single kickstand is considered an important component in the design of the overall bike, and so is selected with the idea that it needs to hold the bike up more vertically?</p>
<p>Dr. M, Does your tourer seem to &#8220;stand up straighter&#8221; than the guy with the mountain bike?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With the exception of two dropout-area kickstands (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biketrailershop.com/greenfield-stabilizer-kickstand-p-1393.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greenfield Stabilizer&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commutebybike.com/2013/01/02/upstand-the-almost-vanishing-kickstand-for-weight-weenies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Upstand&lt;/a&gt;), I have always &lt;em&gt;replaced&lt;/em&gt; an old kickstand with the new one. And each time, I have transplanted the bolt from the old kickstand to the new kickstand, because the bolt included was too long or too short.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The two-legged &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/03/09/marital-aids/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Velo Orange kickstand&lt;/a&gt; that I installed on my wife&#039;s bike was no exception. One nice thing about the Velo Orange kickstand is that the leg length is adjustable without a hacksaw.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also installed a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006VERHKA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B006VERHKA&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B006VERHKA&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt; to prevent the wheel-swing factor, which works fine as long as I don&#039;t have anything in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bikebagshop.com/velo-orange-porteur-front-rack-p-3214.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Porteur Rack&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding parking your bike with kids in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bikekidshop.com/bike-child-seats-e-370.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bike child seat&lt;/a&gt;: Those mega-wide-stance kickstands for cargo bikes, such as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biketrailershop.com/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-p-1433.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Xtracycle KickBack Kickstand&lt;/a&gt;, tend to only work on cargo bikes.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biketrailershop.com/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-p-1433.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://staged.biketrailershop.com/cart/images/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-on-raddish-angle-view-M.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Xtracycle KickBack Kickstand &#124; &#124; Bike Trailer Shop&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And some people really do leave their kids strapped in while they run into a store -- the same way you might leave your kids in a car for a few minutes.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, on a regular (non-cargo) bike you just want the bike to stand upright and stable while you are still fussing with getting the kid into the seat. After that, you are stabilizing the bike yourself -- with your hands. You kick up the kickstand, continue stabilizing the bike, and then swing your leg over the seat -- carefully avoiding kicking your child in the head.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But... You can get two legged kickstands for bikes that are more like that heavy-duty stand on your A2B. For example:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AO9Z7K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunlite Double Kickstand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000AO9Z7K&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AO9Z7K/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://ws.assoc-amazon.com/widgets/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;Format=_SL110_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=bishhu-20&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000AO9Z7K&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You still couldn&#039;t leave your bike and kid unattended, but you would be able to mount your bike, and then roll forward to retract the kickstand -- something you can&#039;t do with &lt;em&gt;scissor&lt;/em&gt;-style double kickstands such as the Velo Orange and the ESGE.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Longest comment ever. Maybe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the exception of two dropout-area kickstands (<a href="http://www.biketrailershop.com/greenfield-stabilizer-kickstand-p-1393.html" rel="nofollow">Greenfield Stabilizer</a> and <a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2013/01/02/upstand-the-almost-vanishing-kickstand-for-weight-weenies/" rel="nofollow">Upstand</a>), I have always <em>replaced</em> an old kickstand with the new one. And each time, I have transplanted the bolt from the old kickstand to the new kickstand, because the bolt included was too long or too short.
</p>
<p>The two-legged <a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2012/03/09/marital-aids/" rel="nofollow">Velo Orange kickstand</a> that I installed on my wife&#8217;s bike was no exception. One nice thing about the Velo Orange kickstand is that the leg length is adjustable without a hacksaw.
</p>
<p>I also installed a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006VERHKA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B006VERHKA&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20" rel="nofollow">Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B006VERHKA" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" border="0" height="1" width="1" /> to prevent the wheel-swing factor, which works fine as long as I don&#8217;t have anything in my <a href="http://www.bikebagshop.com/velo-orange-porteur-front-rack-p-3214.html" rel="nofollow">Porteur Rack</a>.
</p>
<p>Regarding parking your bike with kids in a <a href="http://www.bikekidshop.com/bike-child-seats-e-370.html" rel="nofollow">bike child seat</a>: Those mega-wide-stance kickstands for cargo bikes, such as the <a href="http://www.biketrailershop.com/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-p-1433.html" rel="nofollow">Xtracycle KickBack Kickstand</a>, tend to only work on cargo bikes.
</p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://www.biketrailershop.com/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-p-1433.html" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://staged.biketrailershop.com/cart/images/xtracycle-kickback-kickstand-on-raddish-angle-view-M.jpg" alt="Xtracycle KickBack Kickstand | | Bike Trailer Shop" /></a>
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<p>And some people really do leave their kids strapped in while they run into a store &#8212; the same way you might leave your kids in a car for a few minutes.
</p>
<p>However, on a regular (non-cargo) bike you just want the bike to stand upright and stable while you are still fussing with getting the kid into the seat. After that, you are stabilizing the bike yourself &#8212; with your hands. You kick up the kickstand, continue stabilizing the bike, and then swing your leg over the seat &#8212; carefully avoiding kicking your child in the head.
</p>
<p>But&#8230; You can get two legged kickstands for bikes that are more like that heavy-duty stand on your A2B. For example:
</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AO9Z7K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20" rel="nofollow">Sunlite Double Kickstand</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000AO9Z7K" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" border="0" height="1" width="1" /><br />
  <br /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AO9Z7K/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=bishhu-20" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://ws.assoc-amazon.com/widgets/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;ASIN=B000AO9Z7K&amp;Format=_SL110_&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=bishhu-20" border="0" /></a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=bishhu-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000AO9Z7K" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" border="0" height="1" width="1" />
</p>
<p>You still couldn&#8217;t leave your bike and kid unattended, but you would be able to mount your bike, and then roll forward to retract the kickstand &#8212; something you can&#8217;t do with <em>scissor</em>-style double kickstands such as the Velo Orange and the ESGE.
</p>
<p>Longest comment ever. Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: bergerandfries</title>
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		<dc:creator>bergerandfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my ESGE clone.  There are a couple of sites out there that sell these type of stands, and my bolt was too short, for the record...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my ESGE clone.  There are a couple of sites out there that sell these type of stands, and my bolt was too short, for the record&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BluesCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BluesCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - Thanks for the heads up on the anti-seize compound! In bone-dry Phoenix we get complacent about damage from moisture.

You folks in wetter climes take note!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; Thanks for the heads up on the anti-seize compound! In bone-dry Phoenix we get complacent about damage from moisture.</p>
<p>You folks in wetter climes take note!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your OEM bolt bottomed out?  My bolt was too short, but my chain stays are stupid thick (Comotion Americano).  

One thing that must be done to prevent the bolt seizing in the kickstand, use nautical anti-seize compound.  Aluminum kickstand, steel bolt, add road salt and in the Spring the bolt will shear off when you try to move it.  That ESGE is still sitting in my tool box as a reminder.  The replacement is doing fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your OEM bolt bottomed out?  My bolt was too short, but my chain stays are stupid thick (Comotion Americano).  </p>
<p>One thing that must be done to prevent the bolt seizing in the kickstand, use nautical anti-seize compound.  Aluminum kickstand, steel bolt, add road salt and in the Spring the bolt will shear off when you try to move it.  That ESGE is still sitting in my tool box as a reminder.  The replacement is doing fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a dual kickstand like this on my Italian Moped in college. Heavier than any bicycle, (even with loaded panniers), it needed it. You could stand on the pedals to pop start the moped.
I think this would be good for cargo bikes, especially when you are trying to load it. However the single kickstand I use on my touring bike is adequate even when it&#039;s fully loaded. Good review!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a dual kickstand like this on my Italian Moped in college. Heavier than any bicycle, (even with loaded panniers), it needed it. You could stand on the pedals to pop start the moped.<br />
I think this would be good for cargo bikes, especially when you are trying to load it. However the single kickstand I use on my touring bike is adequate even when it&#8217;s fully loaded. Good review!</p>
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